# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 293
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10335 "2023-08-26T16:59:59Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I was pretty specific and not even vaguely aware of the shooting people crossing the border crap. Even your correction did not support what LHOD had written in this thread. Right. Which means you were wrong. You didn’t know what TWOP had said, yet you said that his position was the same as 30% of all Americans. You didn’t know it at the time. That’s fine. But you also didn’t apologize once you found out you were wrong. Nor did you apologize when you found out that LHOD **did not in fact lie.** LHOD is the one who provided the proof. As you asked. So he hoped you would apologize. You really need to work on this temper you have when people point out your flaws. You seem to hate that more than you hate someone who wants to kill immigrants. That’s not good. And, yeah, I know, you’ll probably hate me for a while. Heck, my post is probably too long, but I’m trying to get you to see things you are not seeing. And it’s too tough to walk on eggshells all the time when replying to you. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10336 "2023-08-26T17:00:17Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@What\_Exit](#): > > > > No, I just banned the most obvious troll in a while. Waldo is not an obvious troll. He just believes and supports things you and many others find abhorrent. There is a difference. > > I know what he believes is abhorrent–but _also_ he’s trolling. Look at the two quotes in my previous post, and tell me that’s an honest poster. I remain on the fence about **magellan** , but _Television Out With Pity_ is gleefully disingenuous. (Italicization added by me) Given how many times he’s been referred to with a initialization **TWOP** , I’d like to congratulate **LHoD** on his prescience. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10337 "2023-08-26T17:01:12Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > . Y’all are tearing each other apart (okay, mostly just **WE** ) arguing over precisely how fucked up **TWOP** is. He is living rent free in your heads. No, we just expect a mod to apologize when they wrongly defended someone and accuses others of making stuff up. It’s annoying how many times WE acts like a jerk, and we’re told we have to just shut up and pretend he didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10338 "2023-08-26T17:01:14Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I find this abbreviation distracting because every time I see it I think of Gene Pitney singing “Town Without Pity.” I clearly made a TPYO. 😜 > [@BigT](#): > > It’s annoying how many times WE acts like a jerk, and we’re told we have to just shut up and pretend he didn’t. To me this is uncharacteristic and I assume WE? is having a bad day. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10339 "2023-08-26T17:03:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > To me this is uncharacteristic and I assume WE? is having a bad day. ⁢ And I hate that I went there, and someone saw it so I can’t remove it. He just frustrates me at times, but I know that the way I normally would respond makes him mad. I just feel like I usually have to be more careful not to piss him off. (I don’t actually want to make him mad.) And then that can make me even more frustrated. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10340 "2023-08-26T17:07:14Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > A better way to put it is that the only way to defend TWOP is to be ignorant of TWOP. The list of banned posters that ~~could replace~~ have replaced _TWOP_ in that sentence is frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10341 "2023-08-26T17:45:07Z")
Not that TOWP’s weren’t reprehensible enough, but he didn’t specifically say he wanted to murder children. He said he wanted illegal immigrants crossing the border to be shot, which by extension includes children. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10342 "2023-08-26T17:45:43Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Cite please? I suspect you are putting words in his mouth. So this appears to be the problem. My post is being equated to calling LHoD a liar. I didn’t intend it as such. I feel there are many reasons people end up putting words in other’s mouths. Usually reinterpreting what someone said differently from what they meant. However, I hate nitpicking and I hate fights over the meaning of a word or words. So as many posters are telling me I called @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness a liar, I do sincerely apologize for that. I did not intend to imply you were lying. If I did I would have used the word. I don’t tend to mince words. I think you probably know that about me. I will be careful about that phrase in the future and I did not this you were lying. I apologize for making it sound like you were. As to the 30% bit, I hope to hell the percentage of people that think shooting border crossers is OK is a heck of a lot lower. I was talking specifically about how many people agreed with TOWP on immigrants coming across the Mexican Border. So, I’m trying not to give a BS apology, ## I am sorry and it was not my intent to call you a liar. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10343 "2023-08-26T17:49:40Z")
👏 👏 👏 And this is how it’s done. If all of our arguments could be resolved this way we wouldn’t need the Pit for inter-poster fights. Still need them for the rants about the world though. (I take that back, too many blow-ins and trocks for that to happen, but one can hope!) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10344 "2023-08-26T18:35:16Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Not that TOWP’s weren’t reprehensible enough, but he didn’t specifically say he wanted to murder children. That’s correct, he said he’d do it he he had to (while taking the stance of “keep people from crossing at gun point”), but didn’t say he _wanted_ to. That’s still extremely disgusting, but you’re right that he didn’t express a **desire** to do so, only the **willingness**. And I also took it as a philosophical/political argument, which is why it (the statement specifically) didn’t violate the rules of the board. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10345 "2023-08-26T18:59:00Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > However, I hate nitpicking and I hate fights over the meaning of a word or words. > > So as many posters are telling me I called @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness a liar, I do sincerely apologize for that. I did not intend to imply you were lying. Thank you, I appreciate it. For me, I try to be pretty careful how I use words. I don’t always succeed, but when I _am_ careful, it’s frustrating when I’m basically told otherwise, especially by someone I respect. We good. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10346 "2023-08-26T19:33:08Z")
Leave to do some chores and then I come to the pit, finding it with peace and harmony… 🙂 Back to the TOWP Troll, besides trying to make the word “invasion” to be as benign as possible, he claimed that he found a dictionary that supported what he was saying, too bad he tried to use an example by omitting that his definition example came from the [Cambridge Dictionary](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/invade) with a _secondary_ meaning that also mentioned bad implications when using it. No wonder he did not bother to link to it. I guess he, like a disturbing number of Republicans that are helping Putin, is simpatico with the Russians invading Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10347 "2023-08-26T19:36:44Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I guess he, like a disturbing number of Republicans that are helping Putin, is simpatico with the Russians invading Ukraine. This drives me so crazy. The Republicans were either Cold War Warriors or Isolationists traditionally. Siding with what is basically the former USSR led by a KGB guy is batshit insane to me. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10348 "2023-08-26T19:39:50Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I guess he, like a disturbing number of Republicans that are helping Putin, is simpatico with the Russians invading Ukraine. And you guess wrong, of course. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10349 "2023-08-26T19:44:10Z")
Why? You will be correct **if** you stopped with the wankerish attempt at diluting what an invasion is. I mean, do you really think the Russians are just squatting in Ukraine? So no, drop your stupid stochastic terrorism use of “invaders” when applied to immigrants, or just accept that you’re also a **Russian stooge** , your choice. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10350 "2023-08-26T19:59:10Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Why? > > You will be correct **if** What the actual fuck? Instead of asking me, you jump right to guessing that I’m simpatico with the Russians invading Ukraine. And, well, that’s _incorrect,_ is all — and, upon getting told that you’re wrong, you (a) only _then_ think to start asking instead of telling, but (b) decide you’re in a position to declare how to be correct. _You’re the one who just made an incorrect guess._ And you don’t pause for a moment to consider what that means; you simply move right on to thinking you’re the authority on correct-versus-incorrect. You’re not. You made an _incorrect_ guess. You thought about a guy who’s been talking about stopping people from crossing a border without permission, _incorrectly_ guessed that he’s simpatico with people who are crossing a border without permission, and, somehow, don’t stop to consider that _you’re_ the one who could use a tip on how to be correct about something. Un-fucking-believable. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10351 "2023-08-26T20:03:35Z")
Keep fucking that chicken, The Other Wanker of Popper. 🙂 The point was that unless you do correct your stupid, stochastic terrorist and racist use of “invader” against immigrants, then one has to conclude _rhetorically_ that you do use the other (now more benign non-meaning) against real invaders. Again: do you accept now that immigrants are not invaders? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10352 "2023-08-26T20:09:40Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > The point was that unless you do correct your stupid and racist use of invader against immigrants, then one has to conclude _rhetorically_ that you do use the same (now more benign non-meaning) against real invaders. Again: _what are you talking about?_ I thought I’d made it completely clear that I support using lethal force against those looking to illegally cross the border into the United States _and_ using lethal force against those looking to illegally cross the border into the Ukraine, and that I use the word “invaders” both times. Good heavens, man: I get that you’re against my _actual_ positions; you don’t need to rhetorically conclude yet _other_ positions to be against. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10353 "2023-08-26T20:11:53Z")
**Remember** , keep that debate in that thread please. No need to bring it here. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10354 "2023-08-26T20:14:28Z")
Ok, seems that you are also trying to be stupid and to try to gaslight, what you were doing a few hours ago in the other thread was an attempt of ‘who me? I’m not seeing the immigrants as murderers, no siree, why I’m going for what I think an invader means to me, it is not that bad’ Yeah, tell that to the Ukrainians. And Karl Popper is rolling in his grave after you abused of him all these years. [On edit] And I just noted the Mod note, this will be the last I will direct a note to the Troll that came in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=292) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=294)