# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5100 "2021-12-02T14:04:35Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > MSNBC is pretty much as partisan as FOX. Delete your account. Seriously, you ought to know better. One is a rather bland American news network which contains 2 slightly left leaning hosts in the prime time period. The other is a far right propaganda network which contributed to the deaths of 700,000 Americans via their politicizing of a disease and is actively working to destabilize the United States political system. My God, WE. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5101 "2021-12-02T14:06:28Z")
They’re just as partisan, but MSNBC is more accurate because reality has a left-wing bias. 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5102 "2021-12-02T14:06:46Z")
This describes things pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5103 "2021-12-02T14:07:18Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > One is a rather bland American news network which contains 2 slightly left leaning hosts in the prime time period. The other is a far right propaganda network which contributed to the deaths of 700,000 Americans via their politicizing of a disease and is actively working to destabilize the United States political system. Well, if you define the “middle” as _halfway_ to death-cult insanity, then it’s fair to say that MSNBC and Fox News are equidistant from it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5104 "2021-12-02T14:10:13Z")
But, again, this isn’t even remotely close to the truth. One is a news network with a slightly partisan spin the other is a propaganda network which _as a matter of business strategy_ lies to its viewers but reports itself to be news. Surely you understand the difference do you not? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5105 "2021-12-02T14:11:45Z")
My reply was definitely intended to be tongue-in-cheek, but I couldn’t find a suitable emoji. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5106 "2021-12-02T14:12:49Z")
Ahhh. Got me! I do like to use /s To indicate sarcasm… ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5107 "2021-12-02T20:42:47Z")
Really? Joe Scarborough is a former Republican Congressman. Nicole Wallace headed up the communication department of the George W Bush White House. With the exception of their evening programming, they’re actually pretty unbiased. Just because Donald Trump and his cronies screams that everyone that says anything bad about him is a radical liberal communist, that doesn’t make it true. No matter how often they say it. I wish this wasn’t true, because Joe Biden desperately needs a media outlet that leans in towards him a little bit. As it stands now, if he set up a laboratory in the White House residence and cured cancer in his spare time, all the news outlets would be talking about is how many innocent mice he killed. Even MSNBC. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5108 "2021-12-02T20:45:15Z")
Maybe they’ve gotten better and Fox has gotten worse. Not sure, I stopped watching the Cable News years ago. BBC News and NPR are my primary news sources. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5109 "2021-12-02T21:14:22Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Just because Donald Trump and his cronies screams that everyone that says anything bad about him is a radical liberal communist, that doesn’t make it true. No matter how often they say it. Fox News is a bunch of liberals now, you can only trust OANN to give you the unbiased truth. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5110 "2021-12-02T21:16:28Z")
I’ve actually noticed a bit of shift on Morning Joe. I’m not sure how to describe it but I’ve been turning to CBS a lot more often lately. I noticed the change about the same time as Politico changed ownership, I think. If just feels like there’s something weird going on. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5111 "2021-12-02T21:33:58Z")
All I know is that the Religious Right likes to attack CNN as “brainwashing” people. I was told this by his wife when I tried to explain why I thought poorly of my old youth pastor’s political argument about Biden. I’m pretty sure it’s projection. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5112 "2021-12-02T21:57:46Z")
So what’s up with Kedikat in the [Russia invading Ukraine](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-may-be-about-to-invade-ukraine/939699) thread. Given his other posting history I don’t actually think that he’s a Russian disinformation plant, and so didn’t want to post a link to his individual posts. But given the amount of fawning on Putin, and willful ignorance regarding his evil and corruption its hard to come up with an alternative explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5113 "2021-12-02T22:45:50Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I’ve actually noticed a bit of shift on Morning Joe. Something’s different. Switched to CNN. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5114 "2021-12-02T23:20:42Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > Something’s different. Switched to CNN. Different how? More political, less political? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5115 "2021-12-02T23:26:08Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But given the amount of fawning on Putin, and willful ignorance regarding his evil and corruption its hard to come up with an alternative explanation. Yeah, I can see American conservatives playing Tu Quoque or saying “Well, why hasn’t Obama or Biden done anything about it”, but straight-facedly playing the Dear Leader Putin card, not to mention the Crimea Has Always Been Part of Russia card, strains credulity. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5116 "2021-12-03T12:29:46Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Different how? Not sure. It seemed adrift. I believe Joe has lost interest. Watched this AM. More like Morning Mika than Morning Joe. Definitely an improvement. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5117 "2021-12-03T18:47:13Z")
Amen to that! ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5118 "2021-12-13T18:25:23Z")
Bit surprised **webwarrior** hasn’t gotten any love here yet. [Michael Flynn pit thread, if curious] ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5119 "2021-12-13T18:36:18Z")
Actually the discussion started here: [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/614?u=atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/614) That was the end of last month. I’ll revise too that I am convinced webwarrior is a troll, and probably a trock. He was not in full-blown troll mode at first. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=33)