# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5200 "2022-01-03T22:10:16Z")
Thank you. Great modding. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5201 "2022-01-03T22:11:31Z")
Nicely done! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5202 "2022-01-03T22:21:22Z")
So … the envelope finally pushed back. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5203 "2022-01-03T22:25:36Z")
Solid modding. Score another one for the hive mind! ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5204 "2022-01-04T17:49:33Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Wow! All those cites basically backed him into a corner, so he just ignored them and said some bullshit about twitter. It’s like he wanted anyone providing those cites to get one of the original sources to join the SDMB, prove that they are the one who spoke the phrase, and then say it again. Talk about your original sources! > > That’s about as close to pure bullshit as I’ve seen on this board. For a chuckle, > @username keyword returns all posts where someone has used a word. The poster in question has cited Twitter before. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5205 "2022-01-04T18:01:33Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > For a chuckle, > > > @username keyword > > returns all posts where someone has used a word. The poster in question has cited Twitter before. - Not the first time he’s been [caught two-facing.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-how-mcconnell-will-prevent-the-trial-of-trump/845108/30) Notice the stunning rebuttal. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5206 "2022-01-04T22:06:38Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Just a reminder, any suspension over 1 day is a group decision. > So your most welcome, but on behalf of the entire staff. Another vote of thanks. The suspension and thread ban was the right outcome. Arguing in bad faith (i.e.- trolling) is one of the most disruptive behaviours on this board, and this was without a doubt exactly that. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5207 "2022-01-05T05:32:49Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Arguing in bad faith (i.e.- trolling) is one of the most disruptive behaviours on this board, and this was without a doubt exactly that. To be sure, if all the other posters who argued and argued and argued and argued with him had just not done that, he could not have trolled and trolled and trolled and trolled in response. You don’t all have to have the Last Word on the Internet. DNFTT. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5208 "2022-01-05T06:44:31Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > To be sure, if all the other posters who argued and argued and argued and argued with him had just not done that, he could not have trolled and trolled and trolled and trolled in response. To be sure, in the entire history of the interwebs, this advice has NEVER been voluntarily followed. “If y’all just don’t respond…” is about the most useless advice one could possibly post. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5209 "2022-01-05T11:15:48Z")
And, in a forum dedicated to fighting ignorance, not responding is an abdication of that responsibility. What do you want the readers to think? “Oh, Libturd made a good point… and everyone ignored it”? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5210 "2022-01-05T12:43:26Z")
Trolls are, whether they realize it or not, a kind of a social engineer. The intersection of human behavior and online communication creates a place where they can uniquely thrive. “DNFTT” is the best advice that nobody takes." Here’s the thing: if even one person engages with a troll, the troll is happy because he’s ruining the whole thread. Telling every single person not to engage with a troll is just like telling every single person in any community to act in a specific way: highly unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5211 "2022-01-05T12:49:19Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Trolls are, whether they realize it or not, a kind of a social engineer. The intersection of human behavior and online communication creates a place where they can uniquely thrive. Or, to quote John Gabriel: [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Greater_Internet_Fuckwad_Theory.png/800px-Greater_Internet_Fuckwad_Theory.png) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Greater_Internet_Fuckwad_Theory.png/800px-Greater_Internet_Fuckwad_Theory.png) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5212 "2022-01-05T13:00:29Z")
Yes, that strip is perhaps Professor Gabriel’s greatest contribution to the body of work regarding internet fuckwads. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5213 "2022-01-05T22:14:25Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > You don’t all have to have the Last Word on the Internet. DNFTT. > [@JohnT](#): > > And, in a forum dedicated to fighting ignorance, not responding is an abdication of that responsibility. I agree with @JohnT here. DNFTT is not good advice from the standpoint of a thread as the legacy of a particular conversation, because taking it literally means that future readers get the impression that the troll made such excellent points that no one had a good response. Better, I think, in most cases to patiently point out why the troll is wrong, and when the troll insists on trolling some more, then mods can take action, as happened here. Which also means less tolerance for said troll in the future. We’ve had a number of trolls who considered themselves experts in trolling without getting themselves into Warning territory. Turns out, they weren’t as good at it as they thought, and are now banned. In a very fine act of moderation, former mod @Bone astutely called one of them out for “sea-lioning” – the art of always being impeccably polite and civil on the surface, while in reality and in substance being an insufferable fuckwad. It was trolling raised virtually to an art form, countered by equally fine moderation, and finally, terminated in a much-celebrated banning. D’Anconia, by contrast, isn’t even a marginally competent troll, let alone an artful one. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5214 "2022-01-06T13:18:09Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > D’Anconia, by contrast, isn’t even a marginally competent troll, let alone an artful one. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5215 "2022-01-06T13:28:47Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > D’Anconia, by contrast, isn’t even a marginally competent troll, let alone an artful one. > > Cite? - His posts (D\_A’s) are his cites. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5216 "2022-01-06T14:47:16Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > His posts (D\_A’s) are his cites. Really? Comments on a message board? That’s all you’ve got for a cite? Pretty weak… do you have anything more authoritative? I’ve been unfailingly polite… ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5217 "2022-01-06T14:49:26Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Pretty weak… do you have anything more authoritative? I could make a Twitter thread… ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5218 "2022-01-06T15:07:23Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Really? Comments on a message board? That’s all you’ve got for a cite? Pretty weak… do you have anything more authoritative? I’ve been unfailingly polite… Unless D\_A admits he sucks in a peer reviewed article I really think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5219 "2022-01-06T15:14:33Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Unless D\_A admits he sucks in a peer reviewed article I really think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt. Ironically, “comments on a messageboard” constitute a “peer review” in this context. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=38)