# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12117 "2024-06-07T05:05:43Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Posting something completely off-topic to make a point and piss off the community on purpose **is** trolling.

Good thing I didn’t do anything of the sort, then. His comment needed calling out, he invited me to do so in the Pit (which specifically allows hijacks anyway) and I didn’t think it deserved its own thread so I picked an ominbus thread that seemed appropriate.

I’ll note that not one person is defending Stranger’s asinine off-topic comments either.

Anyway, I’ve said what I needed to say about him, so feel free to continue ignoring the substance of my comment and dogpile on me for not buying into every made-up story about Israel that anyone ever floated.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12118 "2024-06-07T11:07:49Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> @Smapti is throwing a toddler’s Trump-style temper tantrum by posting his shit in the troll thread.
> 
> I agree, right now Smapti is being a troll.

Whether intentional or not, @Smapti might as well be a troll on anything related to Gaza and Israel. He’s regressed to the extreme stubborn stupidity of the old @Smapti on anything related to law enforcement.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12119 "2024-06-07T15:28:14Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Anyway, I’ve said what I needed to say about him, so feel free to continue ignoring the substance of my comment and dogpile on me for not buying into every made-up story about Israel that anyone ever floated.

I will give you credit for dropping it in this thread at least.

And that’s not being snarky, I’m being sincere, I appreciate it even if nobody else does.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12120 "2024-06-07T17:02:39Z")

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I’m in agreement with @Atamasama - yeah, not a good fit for this thread, but kudos to all for keeping the simmering aggression out of the thread. As for the insinuation that Stranger or Smapti is trolling, well… I’m going to be as hyper rational as I can about this, even if it’s the pit, because I have a pile of pre-existing prejudice, so be warned.

IMHO there is a possibility of debate on the exact nature of the incident, if it’s kept narrow and specific (for the record, I think that there’s no actual conspiracy there, just a series of fumbles, bumbles, and high tension on all sides with horrific consequences, and that efforts to throw blame back and forth, and save face back and forth have further reduced any hope to get a 100% clear understanding).

BUT - it’s like trying to have a narrow, focused and specific debate on how much if any “advantage” a trans athlete has in sports. The well is so very tainted by the prejudice and people who have been using it as an issue or excuse for prejudice that any attempt to do it is going to be (justifiably) looked at with scorn, distrust and dismissal.

Personally, I think Stranger is better than that most of the time in his arguments, and TBH, he did bring _specifics_ as to why he felt that the scenario is less plausible, but in light of taint above, @Smapti’s response is understandable.

Okay, just my input, I’m not the boss of any of you, I’ll see myself out!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12121 "2024-06-07T18:38:58Z")

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There you go, being all thoughtful and reasonable and shit in the Pit. Whassamattu?

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12122 "2024-06-07T18:43:39Z")

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I have a reputation to live down. There was a prior incident where someone got my goat and I righteously flamed them in the Pit, and was sentenced to punishment that cost me serious SAN points in this thread.

Which is one of the reasons I created the sister thread, and for that matter, called someone out in it today.

Or maybe I’m just mellow because it’s too damn hot to yell at people!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12123 "2024-06-07T18:44:59Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> There was a prior incident where someone got my goat and I righteously flamed them here, and was sentenced to punishment that cost me serious SAN points.

Hanging around this board is just asking to raise your Cthulhu Mythos skill rank with all of the associated drawbacks.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12124 "2024-06-07T18:53:04Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> There was a prior incident where someone got my goat

Did you ever get it back?  
🐐

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12125 "2024-06-07T19:02:16Z")

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Heh, you’ve seen my references to the Cornfield. I’m too far gone, save yourself.

[“The most merciful thing in the world is blindness towards reality…  
False perception, deep deception, lead to my insanity…”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1cIWc0TNPs)

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Did you ever get it back?  
> 🐐

Perhaps, if you count flame roasted!

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**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12126 "2024-06-07T19:02:16Z")

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Naaah.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12127 "2024-06-07T19:25:57Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> ecdysiasts

Definitely a word I’ve never encountered before.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12128 "2024-06-07T19:29:43Z")

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I aim to edify.

Also, happy birthday to the luckiest charm on the Dope!

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12129 "2024-06-07T20:45:20Z")

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I took today off cause I was sick. I read my copy of The King In Yellow again. It gets better every time!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12130 "2024-06-07T21:50:23Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> It gets better every time!

“It’s all making sense to me now!”

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12131 "2024-06-07T23:04:25Z")

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Ages and ages ago I picked up a copy of the Chatto & Windus edition. It’s selling for nearly $2000 today. Wow.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12132 "2024-06-07T23:19:49Z")

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You can’t make that shit up, a thread in the Pit named “New user sees ignorance here on the dope about Trump”, indeed the first post by that poster (I haven’t read any of it). And there are already 45 posts, so people respond. Can it get any more trollish?

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12133 "2024-06-07T23:22:55Z")

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I think the title was selected by WE after removing the offending material from an existing P&E thread.

But otherwise, yeah, obvious troll is obvious.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12134 "2024-06-07T23:24:25Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> I think the title was selected by WE after removing the offending material from an existing P&E thread.

Ok, I didn’t catch that, that makes it probably a little less trollish.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12135 "2024-06-07T23:26:22Z")

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Yes, obvious indeed, but I still read 25 of the 45 answers so far in that thread. The answers were good, but it was a waste of time. At least I did not answer, and he is unlikely to read here.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12136 "2024-06-07T23:47:34Z")

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My only post was to point out that it’s a troll and to doubt we’ll see it ever again.

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