# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 415
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12798 "2024-11-12T19:38:04Z")
For those who don’t understand what 88 means, it’s code for HH which signifies that the person is a massive fan of _Hogan’s Heroes_. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12799 "2024-11-12T19:40:00Z")
Oh. Gee. Thank you _ever so much_ for the [**earworm**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onZm-1GjYdw). That, I did _not_ need. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12800 "2024-11-12T22:22:25Z")
I know some of you will give me grief for calling this trolling, but I can’t see any other motivation: > [@paul in saudi](#): > > > [@steronz](#): > > > > Did they vote against my son’s rights? Are they going to talk politics at the table? While I have to smile and pretend like nothing is wrong while that goes on? > > Yes, it is awkward when people do not behave as you wish them to. I suppose one might politely talk about your political views. You know, conversation. Newsflash, Paul. Some of the parents on this board actually love their children. And thus don’t “politely” hang out with those who want to hurt them. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12801 "2024-11-12T22:46:46Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Newsflash, Paul. Some of the parents on this board actually love their children. And thus don’t “politely” hang out with those who want to hurt them. He has always been a transphobic bigoted asshole with a giant stick up his ass and, yes, a troll. All of those years living in an uptight repressive regime has rotted his brain and we have to suffer what’s left of it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12802 "2024-11-12T23:02:11Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > He has always been a transphobic bigoted asshole with a giant stick up his ass and, yes, a troll. Hence why he has his own long Pit thread going back a few years: > [@A pitting for Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791): > > For his performance in the Why don’t liberals and Democrats fully embrace atheism? thread, starting here: I’m not going to quote any more than that, there’s too much to quote and you can go over there and read it. His hateful responses there, basically saying that if oppression doesn’t amount to genocide then it doesn’t count as oppression, got the thread closed for a while (for taking it way off track) and not-quite-a-mod-note from Raventhief, which I wish had been stronger for the disingenuo… And he has come up before in this thread here too. > [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/8563): > > Plot twist: Paul was in Saudi is cooking the books in his mass killing thread by going on killing rampages. Seriously, what’s the purpose of his thread? And I dug up this gem from over 20 years ago: > [@Playmates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playmates/146429): > > So here I sit in Saudi arabia, happy as a clam as I am downloading pthots of Playmates of the Month that somehow has (thusfar) escaped the Saudi censors. I LOVE getting over on the system. So anyway, a couple of thoughts. The name “Christine” and it derivitives are WAY over represented. Blacks (at about 1/8th of the US population) are represented in about that ratio. Orientals SEEM underrepresented, with no examples I have found so far. Why is that? I thought most men though Orientals were c… ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12803 "2024-11-12T23:20:06Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > And I dug up this gem from over 20 years ago: Heck, I blamed his antics in the last few years on senility/dementia, but this shows that he’s always been this way… ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12804 "2024-11-13T00:41:00Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I know some of you will give me grief for calling this trolling, but I can’t see any other motivation: > > > [@paul in saudi](#): > > > > > [@steronz](#): > > > > > > Did they vote against my son’s rights? Are they going to talk politics at the table? While I have to smile and pretend like nothing is wrong while that goes on? > > > > Yes, it is awkward when people do not behave as you wish them to. I suppose one might politely talk about your political views. You know, conversation. > > Newsflash, Paul. Some of the parents on this board actually love their children. And thus don’t “politely” hang out with those who want to hurt them. Paul has no problem hanging out with bigots and Trumpers because he’d agree with them. He’s a homophobic asshole. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12805 "2024-11-13T00:43:40Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Paul has no problem hanging out with bigots and Trumpers because he’d agree with them. He’s a homophobic asshole You left out _misogynistic_ homophobic asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12806 "2024-11-13T00:44:33Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m more an Imperial Bösendorfer guy - it’s 97 or nothing! That’s not how piano fan goes. Even in the late 90s/2000s “Orientals” was like - huh? (ref.: **P-I-S** ) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12807 "2024-11-13T15:50:23Z")
@hajario et al Are y’all agreeing with me that this is trolling? Because I’m getting a different response elsewhere. I tend to like to float the idea of trolls here before going any further. I fully expected y’all to all say “it’s not really trolling, but it is bad.” ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12808 "2024-11-13T15:53:29Z")
His disgusting beliefs are legitimately his own but since he knows that it riles us up I vote for trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12809 "2024-11-13T16:34:43Z")
Right. Trolling and sincerity are not mutually exclusive. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12810 "2024-11-13T16:55:43Z")
As above. It’s not the beliefs but the use of deliberately inflammatory wording and responses to elicit a desired reaction that makes it trolling. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12811 "2024-11-13T17:11:29Z")
See, I agree it is inflammatory wording… Anyways, my brain is weird since I messed up my medicine yesterday, so I may wait a bit. I’m debating trying a new, supposedly more convincing way of writing, or just being my usual straightforward (if wordy) self. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12812 "2024-11-13T17:15:02Z")
Less wordy would be good if you can pull it off. Your last post is a good example of less wordy and to the point. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12813 "2024-11-13T17:42:47Z")
Ah, so not the style I was going to use. Maybe I can pull in my Twitter skills instead. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12814 "2024-11-13T18:16:15Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Ah, so not the style I was going to use. Maybe I can pull in my Twitter skills instead. ⁢ The style I was going to use involves storytelling and evoking emotions rather than dry facts and arguments. (How’s that for Twitter style? 😂 Replying to a post because I left out info.) ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12815 "2024-11-13T18:59:28Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The style I was going to use involves storytelling and evoking emotions rather than dry facts and arguments. Oof. Maybe for in-person conversations or a longer opinion piece. Definitely not on a message board. My constant battle is that when I have an important point, I feel like I need a few sentences to emphasize it. But more text just masks it. Short and sweet wins. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12816 "2024-11-13T19:11:42Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > My constant battle is that when I have an important point, I feel like I need a few sentences to emphasize it. But more text just masks it. Short and sweet wins. Usually quite true. I have a tendency to be verbose myself, and I think that’s because it’s easier to write rambling train-of-thought posts than short pithy ones. Good writers know that a short narrative that expresses an idea well is usually the result of discipline and often a lot of editing. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12817 "2024-11-13T19:23:23Z")
“Omit needless words” remains the single best piece of writing advice ever put to paper. Succinct writing, especially in a format like this, shows respect for both the craft and for the audience. Dropping a thousand words into the middle of a conversation shows precisely the opposite. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=414) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=416)