# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12904 "2024-11-27T13:57:25Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> One of the old gang of usual suspects has turned up to sea-lion like a mofo in the brainwashing thread in P&E. And I don’t mean Lumpy.

Would you mind saying who you _do_ mean, especially for those of us who don’t follow P&E threads and don’t want to go digging through just to try and divine who you might be referring to? We don’t have to speak in riddles here. Just don’t @ them so they don’t get a notification knowing you’re calling the, a troll.

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12905 "2024-11-27T13:57:50Z")

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I just came here to see if anyone noticed those moon/light speed posts. Who the F puts trademark symbols on phrases in their comments?

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12906 "2024-11-27T14:02:01Z")

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I think it’s Zoo-b-i and Ma-give-r

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12907 "2024-11-27T14:06:09Z")

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Zoobi and Magiver. Thank you. Again, don’t need to use code. Don’t need to make names unsearchable. It’s just _don’t @ them_.

And may mod strike me down should it be otherwise.

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12908 "2024-11-27T14:31:46Z")

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And I immediately regretted replying to the “the 5 most powerful men in the world” bait, but Trump is not yet the president.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12909 "2024-11-27T14:42:18Z")

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I agree with your post.

Avoid direct links and the @.

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So far Zoobi seems to be following our rules and I see no blatant trolling.

Just a fairly quick review. Hopefully that continues.

If you spot something you think is blatant, please flag it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12910 "2024-11-27T15:09:28Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Would you mind saying who you _do_ mean, especially for those of us who don’t follow P&E threads and don’t want to go digging through just to try and divine who you might be referring to? We don’t have to speak in riddles here. Just don’t @ them so they don’t get a notification knowing you’re calling the, a troll.

Fine. That’ll teach me to be discreet.

In the “The years of brain washing by the right paid off” thread in P&E, **HMS\_Irruncible** said:

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> Liberals: “Here’s all the scientific evidence about global warming. Additionally here’s some more evidence proving that Exxon is fabricating and distorting most of the counterevidence against it.”
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> Conservatives: “You guys and your facts. Who are you to say what the facts are. Who even knows what a fact is. I don’t need facts to tell me what my gut knows is true.”

To which I said:

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> That is almost verbatim what a FOAF MAGA has told me several times when presented with facts and figures that proved him wrong.

To which MAGA-ver said - and this was the entirety of his post -:

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> What were the figures and facts used to dispute what issues.

To which I said:

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> I have no intention of rehashing several long conversations on Facebook over the past few years, no matter how unfailingly politely you ask.

Any other questions?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12911 "2024-11-27T15:45:07Z")

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What do we call people who post bullshit lies in internet forums?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12912 "2024-11-27T15:57:06Z")

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Liars

And liars who deliberately post lies to incite reactions are trolls

Liars who give false or misleading information about themselves on the internet describes…oh, 99% of the human population, of which a smaller percentage do so to incite reactions and are trolls.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12913 "2024-11-27T22:21:27Z")

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There have been a few mentions here of those two bizarre “thought experiment” threads currently haunting FQ, the one-way measurement of the speed of light and the retro-reflectors on the moon, both authored by the same oddball creature named sbright33, so I had a quick look.

I don’t think sbright is a troll, but I think it’s sufficiently troll-adjacent that it’s worth a mention. Apparently sbright commands a team of research physicists, every one of them with a doctorate from MIT (wouldn’t a bit of scientific diversity be a good thing? 🙂 ) yet somehow feels the need to come to the SDMB to validate his “thought experiments”, which incidentally are completely pointless, in my view.

When asked why he didn’t just consult his own brilliant team of physicists about this stuff – which is obviously because it doesn’t exist – he replied, and I quote:

> Yes, we have discussed it for hours recently. 100’s of hours, over the years. Some of these guys are too smart for me. They talk about the ether, which has not been proven.

Two things jump out at me here. One is the crack about “some of these guys are too smart for me”. The whole point of these threads, well exemplified by the various bits of running commentary and side remarks by this poster, is to demonstrate how incredibly smart he is. They fail to do this – they actually demonstrate nothing more than juvenile nerdiness – but the former is the intent. Thus the faux-modesty that his brilliant but entirely imaginary team of MIT physicists is smarter than he is is in fact a form of sea-lioning – invariably polite, invariably self-deprecating.

And you gotta love the last sentence in that quote! Yes, whenever leading physicists with PhDs from MIT discuss the speed of light, the luminiferous aether always comes up! 🤣

My first guess would have been that this is a geeky high school student, but from his join date I’m guessing they’re probably older than that. Still, that’s the basic profile – someone wasting everyone’s time for their own entertainment, and pushing back defensively when asked why he’s asking pointless questions about things that cannot happen in the real world.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12914 "2024-11-27T22:26:47Z")

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One-way measurement of the speed of light.  
Retro-reflectors on the moon.  
Aether.  
Two more and I’ll have Flat Earther Bingo without using the ‘Free Space’!

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12915 "2024-11-27T22:41:46Z")

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Maybe they have been _sniffing_ ether.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12916 "2024-11-27T22:43:39Z")

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It looks like they have been sniffing the ether bunny.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12917 "2024-11-27T22:50:38Z")

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A certain virtuous feline is sounding very much like one of our banned regulars of yesteryear.

I’m not getting specific but I’m betting they are not on their first of nine lives here.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12918 "2024-11-27T22:56:48Z")

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Beat me to it (link removed by me)

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12919 "2024-11-27T22:57:12Z")

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Yup, out from under the bridge.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12920 "2024-11-27T22:59:44Z")

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You may want to break that link. My understanding is that the policy in this thread is to not directly link back to non-Pit threads.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12921 "2024-11-27T23:00:22Z")

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Removed, then.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12922 "2024-11-27T23:00:54Z")

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Maybe a trock, but clearly either stirring shit, or an idiot.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12923 "2024-11-27T23:03:29Z")

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I don’t know if they are a trock. But, I reported them for trolling a few posts back. I said I did not know if they were just stupid and argumentative or a troll. After a few more posts, I made another report ‘they are now posting just to annoy people. Troll’.

Who do think they were in a past sock?

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