# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12965 "2024-12-09T22:54:11Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I am not aware of a single moment where an innocent poster brand new to the board stumbled upon any of the troll threads, found their name, and left in a huff, or someone who did the same after being here for an extended period of time. You’re concerned about something that doesn’t happen.

I had brief delusions of correlating some of our past guesses in this thread with the outcome. I made it through about 10 before I got bored. I did find one who was flagged for being “suspicious” but nothing overt. They made a half dozen posts then disappeared. So who knows - most likely the board didn’t hold their interest. I’m sure there are others who quietly disappeared after a few posts. I don’t think we can say conclusively that an unwelcoming environment wasn’t the reason for any of them.

As for the mods being grateful for the heads up, I’m sure that’s true when it’s a heads up about trollish or jerkish posts. I think this thread is great for that. It’s just the mentions here that are basically profiling that have started to rub me the wrong way, and I’d be surprised if the mods are in favor of those. And if they’d are, I’d argue against it.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12966 "2024-12-10T00:24:51Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> As for the mods being grateful for the heads up, I’m sure that’s true when it’s a heads up about trollish or jerkish posts. I think this thread is great for that. It’s just the mentions here that are basically profiling that have started to rub me the wrong way, and I’d be surprised if the mods are in favor of those. And if they’d are, I’d argue against it.

This is where I stand too. For what it’s worth.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12967 "2024-12-10T01:01:51Z")

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I get a lot of legit heads ups here. They’re often useful.

Mentioning a new poster fits a profile of a returnee, does not cause harm typically, though a few people have really screwed up on occasion and linked back or even used the @ in front of their usernames.

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**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12968 "2024-12-10T01:11:00Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I’m so sorry I’m nice.

With all due respect, I’ve seen a few occasions where you haven’t been so nice, like telling other posters to shut up. Let’s not re-write history here.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12969 "2024-12-10T01:13:00Z")

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Please don’t pick a fight with **Beckdawrek** in this thread, take it to hers if you must.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12970 "2024-12-10T01:26:45Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Sometimes there’s no individual post that it makes any sense to flag, but there’s a pattern that genuinely indicates bad behavior.

And that’s when you message a mod, lay out your reasoning, and leave it to them.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12971 "2024-12-10T01:38:51Z")

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We’ve had PMs where people have said so and so writes like banned poster such and such and seems keen on these same 2 topics.

With that we can do some crosschecking, check old notes, check some tech stuff and cast an augury and often remove a Trock.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12972 "2024-12-11T02:09:29Z")

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The point of bringing up how the person would feel is not to discuss how likely it is to happen, but to allow for empathy-based moral arguments. “How would you feel if you were a new poster on another board who stumbled upon this?”

I would think it was a very hostile place, calling me a troll before I’d done anything. I’d think they were wrong to do so. Thus, by this type of moral argument, it is wrong for me to do to others.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12973 "2024-12-11T02:29:09Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> While I say obsession, it’s probably inaccurate then. We had a LOT more response to this one than quite a few prior, similar mentions in this and prior threads. So I was surprised.

“Obsessed” isn’t a bunch of people responding to something you publicly wrote on a message board. “Obsessed” is looking at a poster’s profile, attempting to discern patterns based upon the number of posts they have read and the amount of time they’ve spent viewing the board, finding no pattern, and telling everyone to keep an eye on them anyway because… reasons?

I can’t even remember the last time I looked at someone’s profile, if I ever have.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12974 "2024-12-11T02:29:22Z")

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Moving on to actual Trolls rather than hypothetical ones:

Kedikat is back spouting Russian propaganda in the  
“Regional geo-political implications of fall of Al-Ashad regime in Syria to rebel forces”  
P&E thread.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12975 "2024-12-11T02:36:46Z")

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He drops off and then pops back up. I assume Russia has a protocol of cycling through all the sites you are spouting propaganda to limit your name recognition.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12976 "2024-12-11T03:32:43Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> “Obsessed” isn’t a bunch of people responding to something you publicly wrote on a message board. “Obsessed” is looking at a poster’s profile, attempting to discern patterns based upon the number of posts they have read and the amount of time they’ve spent viewing the board, finding no pattern, and telling everyone to keep an eye on them anyway because… reasons?

Right back atcha - obsessed is someone who shows up days later, after 3 additional posts and an apology, and yet starts all over for… reasons.

I take it back, it isn’t obsessive, it’s _creepy_.

😉

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12977 "2024-12-11T10:31:51Z")

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Well, we can add “days” and “how message boards work” to the list of things you don’t understand.

The irony of you self-reporting on looking up the profiles of new posters searching for patterns and calling others creepy is palpable.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12978 "2024-12-12T02:00:43Z")

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You blind, witless twit. Your hypocrisy is fucking amazing.

Let’s take apart your flawed analysis.

My post about the subject [December 7](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12936).

Second post about my reasons [December 8](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12939).

Oh, and since you’re obviously NOT reading the thread, I was very clear that it wasn’t fair, or nice, but was appropriate (IMHO to be clear) by the standards of THIS thread in that post.

Ongoing argument about the appropriateness of such through December 9.

December 9th, I accept that it’s a [de facto accusation](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12959).

And now, your pathetic, hypocritical ass shows itself, who, clutching their pearls as Ms. Grundy and saying you’re above any such thing jumps in to claim the moral high ground by _doing the exact shit_ you criticize, in saying that it’s unjustified, because, _reasons_ despite the fact it’s an effective IF UNFAIR methodology for the thread.

[December 10](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12973).

SO yes. Days.

As for your final note, let’s add the fact that you embrace the Republican “every accusation is a confession” because you can’t count days, can’t figure out that the timeline is clear in the message board, and that you don’t read for comprehension, because DAYS earlier I had fully admitted that it was an ultimately unfair practice which I had ALREAY stated in the the above citied threads.

So, either you’re a low-effort troll trying to get a late pile-on (very possible), an idiot who doesn’t actually read a full thread before jumping in (very possible), or just a hypocrite (proven) who likes to stir up shit (back to troll), you’re guilty of every single thing you claim I am, just less honest about it. Oh wait, I’m sorry, that was wrong, you claim you’ve NEVER looked at another poster’s summary, but since you give zero credit for my honesty, I feel declare you to be a goat-felching lying sack of shit. Because it’s the pit. And you’ve earned it.

But, to save everyone else further digression (although to me at least, you’ve identified yourself as a troll, so, hey, +1 for thread relevance) I’ll happily spare myself any more of your deliberate misrepresentations and proven hypocrisy by using the nifty ignore feature and never see you again. Ah, bliss.

Oh, parting shot. For someone claiming that they are above such things, you spend a LOT of time posting in the Pit as well. Sure, you don’t participate in this thread, but your morality is as threadbare as your integrity and intellect. 🙂 Oh, and yes, I looked at your summary as well. Go clutch your pearls again.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12979 "2024-12-12T03:57:43Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > What’s more welcoming than a hazing ritual?
> 
> I dunno - it’s kind of hard on the goats.

Not to mention it hasn’t been much fun since the squid died.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12980 "2024-12-13T08:18:49Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Oh, parting shot. For someone claiming that they are above such things, you spend a LOT of time posting in the Pit as well. Sure, you don’t participate in this thread, but your morality is as threadbare as your integrity and intellect. 🙂 Oh, and yes, I looked at your summary as well. Go clutch your pearls again.

Yawn.

Your spectacular TLDR aside, if you were actually reading, you’d have noted my opinion of your creepy behavior on December 8th. You know, in the middle of your timeline. Also, this is a message board. We’re all boomer enough here to know how they work. That I took longer than 24 hours to reply to one of your posts 1) doesn’t make days (plural), it makes it take a day and a few hours change and 2) you know, that’s how message boards work. People don’t read or reply to every comment in real time.

That you looked at my summary is entirely unsurprising. It’s also incredibly creepy, and that you have decided from it that I’m a troll shows just how blind you are to just how obsessive and creepy your behavior actually is.

Looking up the view time and number of posts viewed by every new member of the board and reporting your results to everyone isn’t normal or healthy behavior. Its creepy and weird. It’s even creepier and weirder when you can find no pattern but decide they should be kept under observation anyway.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12981 "2024-12-13T12:03:25Z")

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“You’re an obsessive online stalker!”  
“No, U!”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12982 "2024-12-13T17:14:55Z")

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You forgot:

“And I can prove you’re an obsessive online stalker because of all the online data I’ve compiled on you!”

😆

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12983 "2024-12-15T03:41:46Z")

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ByrdJrHs, what the hell are you trying to accomplish by shitting in my MPSIMS thread about my cirrhosis, then starting an FQ thread when you got modded?

Are you trying to shame me for fucking up my liver with alcohol? I know I fucked up my liver with alcohol. I’m not trying to make excuses or blame anyone but myself. Are you mad that people are trying to give me constructive advice instead of lecturing me to quit drinking? I’ve already quit drinking and I have no intention of starting again. Are you just looking for an excuse to be an asshole?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/12984 "2024-12-15T03:56:32Z")

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I think this is a sock. I’ve suspended the very suspicious new poster.

Anyone recognize the writing style of this one?

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