# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 438
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13268 "2025-03-13T00:59:25Z")
Forgive my impertinence, but … It’s really the only sensible thing to do if it’s done properly. Therapeutically there’s no danger involved. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13269 "2025-03-13T00:59:33Z")
And the guidance to avoid @ and linking is mostly for new posters who might not know about the Pit and this thread. Long-time posters already know about it, so it’s kind of stupid to try to keep the fact we’re talking about them secret. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13270 "2025-03-13T00:59:55Z")
No, quite the opposite. I want you to marry me so that our child will be born in wedlock. I was going to suprise you and propose on a carrage ride with swans and a harpist. But you have forced my hand. Will you cook for me for the rest of my life? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13271 "2025-03-13T01:00:04Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > I thought we avoided using their names in case they did a search on them. I thought we were only doing that with _new_ poster trolls and socks. Fuckin’ ninja fish!!! ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13272 "2025-03-13T01:02:55Z")
I don’t get the abortion angle. Must be some cultural reference I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13273 "2025-03-13T01:03:49Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > And the guidance to avoid @ and linking is mostly for new posters who might not know about the Pit and this thread. Well, not _linking_ is still needed - otherwise we’d have to modify the thread title to be in-line with the “no insults” ruling due to the back-linking issues. I don’t @ people we’re discussing normally because _especially_ for short-time trolls it just encourages them to come here and foul this thread until the inevitable catches up with them. And if said “new” trolls come here right away _anyway_, well, that’s a tell of a different nature. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > The response to which should be ‘Thank you for your non-answer answer, which by it’s construction also clearly breaks the rules, I’ll report your post for you.’ I don’t think I’d go that far (though I’d be internally sympathetic to such a response!) - I don’t think it’s fair to demand a direct answer from them and then use it as a gotcha. Well, at least not in ATMB. I’m still going to judge the hell out of them for their beliefs, but I have more respect for the _judgement_ of an individual who exercises their right to remain silent and stay out of threads where they apparently would otherwise feel _compelled_ to break the rules by replying. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13274 "2025-03-13T01:07:19Z")
[**Ayup**](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/quotes/). Welcome aboard 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13275 "2025-03-13T01:08:24Z")
It’s from Airplane!, the movie [Here’s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvYOTz5n6GI) a short video of the scenes. ETA: Ah, ninja’d by **DNR**. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13276 "2025-03-13T01:12:01Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Welcome aboard 🙂 > [@SunUp](#): > > It’s from Airplane!, the movie Heck, I saw Airplane! in a theater in 1980 when I was twelve, and a lot of times later, but I didn’t remember that bit. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13277 "2025-03-13T01:26:32Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > I’m still going to judge the hell out of them for their beliefs, but I have more respect for the _judgement_ of an individual who exercises their right to remain silent and stay out of threads where they apparently would otherwise feel _compelled_ to break the rules by replying. I concur, but, they’re not staying out of threads and remaining silent, they’re making their positions very clear. It’s the posting equivalent of ‘I’m not touching you!’ My experience of this board is that the Mods, generally, have no long term patience with ‘rules lawyers’ and ‘line probers’. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13278 "2025-03-13T01:31:06Z")
Allow me to thank you guys for the illuminating discussion about the differing reasons for persistent trollery. It’s an illustration of why the Pit is imho an integral, necessary and fascinating part of the Dope, way beyond its value for venting, punning, ranting, blaspheming, and diving down rabbit holes. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13279 "2025-03-13T01:50:43Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > My experience of this board is that the Mods, generally, have no long term patience with ‘rules lawyers’ and ‘line probers’. Is that true since the rules update? I remember Ceasario. I wish I did not. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13280 "2025-03-13T02:00:37Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I concur, but, they’re not staying out of threads and remaining silent, they’re making their positions very clear. Oh, that’s on me 100% for lack of clarity. My intent was to say that if either of the posters in question had _shown_ the capacity to keep their silence, I’d have more respect for their judgement, even if I totally disagreed with their reasoning. The two posters in question, exactly as you said, have not done so. Instead they keep trying to find away around the clear language of the TOS. Or they express outrage that their views are being silenced. My main (and reasonably minor) disagreement is that _in general_ I don’t like the gotcha of demanding them to state their meaning and then sanctioning them if they answer honestly. As pointed out upthread though, there were _many_ ways they could express the concerns about their POV without automatically misgendering off board individuals. Sure, it would have required more work/effort, and thought, but gee, that’s part of being a person interacting in any society if you don’t want to get shunned (or warned/suspended/banned). ANYWAY, I also agree that the mods do see that they’re trying to find a way to edge riiiiiiight up to our fuzzy lines, and are quite tired of it. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13281 "2025-03-13T02:04:03Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > Is that true since the rules update? I think over the years (dear lord, I’ve been here for 20 years!) the obvious stuff is getting less and less tolerated. We’ll never see another ‘pics?’ post in a thread about bras and nobody is ever going to get away with ‘they’re called “wetbacks” because their backs are wet!’. How much of that is because of the poorly written rules as opposed to Mods who see through the ‘rules lawyers’ and ‘line probers’ is a question I can’t answer . . . but it’s clearly the Mods! ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13282 "2025-03-13T02:06:48Z")
Thanks. That’s good to know. (Just to be clear I am being serious, not snarky. If there is never another poster like Caesario, that would be great) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13283 "2025-03-13T02:23:41Z")
There is something to be said for sincere bigotry. It is bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13284 "2025-03-13T08:23:40Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > My experience of this board is that the Mods, generally, have no long term patience with ‘rules lawyers’ and ‘line probers’. My mileage varies. They’re better than they were, but I wouldn’t say “no patience” I mean, Dr Deth is still unbanned, right? How many fucking times has _he_ been suspended? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13285 "2025-03-13T08:29:20Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I mean, Dr Deth is still unbanned, right? How many fucking times has _he_ been suspended? You will not see me disagreeing with you on that. He’s just not on my short list of ‘rules lawyers’ and ‘line probers’. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13286 "2025-03-13T08:41:59Z")
Like I said, MMV. He definitely tops mine for the latter. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/13287 "2025-03-13T08:50:33Z")
I would add, He is the poster boy for rule abusers. His continuing abuse of the ‘No Hijacks’ rule where he posts a hijack and then hides behind the rule to avoid addressing replies to said hijack admitting, IMHO, that he knew said post was a hijack. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=437) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=439)