# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5800 "2022-04-19T15:04:26Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> I don’t know if **Princhester** is trolling or just _really_ doesn’t want to admit he was wrong about using barges to free that stuck ship.

Meh. I’m not in that industry, but my first reaction to “tug boats and barges” is also “that can’t be right”. “They used tugs, cranes and winches” is a perfectly cromulent nitpick, even if you aren’t technically wrong.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5801 "2022-04-19T18:08:56Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> Meh. I’m not in that industry, but my first reaction to “tug boats and barges” is also “that can’t be right”. “They used tugs, cranes and winches” is a perfectly cromulent nitpick, even if you aren’t technically wrong.

There are clearly [self propelled barges](https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=self+propelled+barge&client=firefox-b-1-d&fir=Puuw7OuuVI4wJM%252CIyJr5LAh57AeVM%252C_%253BT_BgVYsTfYTYMM%252CoQ2nVtPJiKNcMM%252C_%253B8tkLg3sLbcjumM%252C6w6E6ax1AKjCOM%252C_%253BlJ1qRr-LVO0UvM%252CgFYyzi1znboDUM%252C_%253BrGwxXCKDn_khSM%252CkAeV1zyBom-aPM%252C_%253BlqRQ2yqjIAzN0M%252CubUFB0M_Qie8qM%252C_%253BlXLNyIyRvA9pJM%252C8tecXQ_P-1ibHM%252C_%253BAIASR2sepNjcAM%252CZgaw4Iqb6pG37M%252C_%253BmfAe9J5Oog-6RM%252CbrZc1oFBD-e9xM%252C_%253BoRtym_oBNh0enM%252CcE4XLw20wD-r6M%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQpP2xPepwYzTAFatFGrFLnbMnm2w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwq4Lu26D3AhXtI0QIHSnUD5IQjJkEegQIBxAC&biw=1148&bih=961&dpr=1) in the world, so I don’t see why one couldn’t help pull that Ever-whatever ship free.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5802 "2022-04-19T18:13:30Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> There are clearly [self propelled barges](https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=self+propelled+barge&client=firefox-b-1-d&fir=Puuw7OuuVI4wJM%252CIyJr5LAh57AeVM%252C_%253BT_BgVYsTfYTYMM%252CoQ2nVtPJiKNcMM%252C_%253B8tkLg3sLbcjumM%252C6w6E6ax1AKjCOM%252C_%253BlJ1qRr-LVO0UvM%252CgFYyzi1znboDUM%252C_%253BrGwxXCKDn_khSM%252CkAeV1zyBom-aPM%252C_%253BlqRQ2yqjIAzN0M%252CubUFB0M_Qie8qM%252C_%253BlXLNyIyRvA9pJM%252C8tecXQ_P-1ibHM%252C_%253BAIASR2sepNjcAM%252CZgaw4Iqb6pG37M%252C_%253BmfAe9J5Oog-6RM%252CbrZc1oFBD-e9xM%252C_%253BoRtym_oBNh0enM%252CcE4XLw20wD-r6M%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQpP2xPepwYzTAFatFGrFLnbMnm2w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwq4Lu26D3AhXtI0QIHSnUD5IQjJkEegQIBxAC&biw=1148&bih=961&dpr=1) in the world, so I don’t see why one couldn’t help pull that Ever-whatever ship free.

And everyone in the area with an inflatable and a 4hp outboard could have joined in. How many would have to participate to equal one tugboat though?

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5803 "2022-04-19T18:16:32Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> And everyone in the area with an inflatable and a 4hp outboard could have joined in. How many would have to participate to equal one tugboat though?

DamnifIknow, but Princhester was arguing barges are “just platforms”. Some do have motive power. As much as a bunch of tugs? Of course not. But I guess someone felt some barges with motors could help out.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5804 "2022-04-19T18:37:41Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Of course not. But I guess someone felt some barges with motors could help out.

I’m going to stop engaging in this derail since I’m posting out of my ass, but in the links I’ve examined so far I haven’t seen any indication of barges using their propulsion to move the Evergrounded. Just crane barges offloading the cargo and _possibly_ “pull barges” anchored and pulling with a winch.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5805 "2022-04-19T19:34:56Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> DamnifIknow, but Princhester was arguing barges are “just platforms”. Some do have motive power. As much as a bunch of tugs? Of course not. But I guess someone felt some barges with motors could help out. -

“Boss! Boss!” [“De barge! De barge!”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAQSZhazYk8)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5806 "2022-04-19T19:48:50Z")

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_Pictured: de barge:_

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52016099618_e1b4f88d53_z.jpg "singer-el-debarge-poses-for-a-portrait-session-on-1983-in-los-angeles-picture-id...") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52016099618/)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5807 "2022-04-19T20:44:42Z")

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Barges? We ain’t got no barges! We don’t need no barges! I don’t have to show you any stinking barges!

(In before someone gets the quote wrong)

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5808 "2022-04-19T20:47:07Z")

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On my favorite radio station growing up, they would play a clip from the original from time to time. So, when everyone quotes the incorrect Blazing Saddle’s version, it grates.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5809 "2022-04-19T21:10:30Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> On my favorite radio station growing up, they would play a clip from the original from time to time. So, when everyone quotes the incorrect Blazing Saddle’s version, it grates. -

_Blazing Saddles_ is never wrong. It’s reality that needs adjusting.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5810 "2022-04-19T22:48:14Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gx6TBrfCW54/maxresdefault.jpg "We Don't Need No Stinking Badgers!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx6TBrfCW54)

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5811 "2022-04-22T13:30:01Z")

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Pair of newbie trolls in Politics forum in the thread about sexism and LePen. See the first two posts.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5812 "2022-04-22T13:32:45Z")

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First one admits to trolling and the second only posts in poll form. I’m sure they will both be welcome additions to this board.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5813 "2022-04-22T19:54:37Z")

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Can we just ban **EverythingMadeEasier**? They are stinking up GD with rehashed God arguments over in the “Why do people believe in God” thread. Honestly, that thread lasted way longer than I thought it would before becoming a shit show.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5814 "2022-04-22T19:59:51Z")

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He comes off like a religionist pretending to be an atheist just to stir shit up.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5815 "2022-04-22T20:05:01Z")

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Yeah, typical troll tactics, just like “I’m a liberal, but…” followed by right-wing diatribes. We’ve all seen this a thousand times.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5816 "2022-04-22T20:07:18Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> He comes off like a religionist pretending to be an atheist just to stir shit up.

> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Yeah, typical troll tactics, just like “I’m a liberal, but…” followed by right-wing diatribes. We’ve all seen this a thousand times.

Yes, exactly. Both of these things. There’s no way this turns out well.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5817 "2022-04-22T20:14:56Z")

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The term “antitheists”, the misnaming of “Randi” as “Randy”, the claim that a belief that God created the universe was the only possible alternative for theists to grab on to…what could possibly be suspicious about all that?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5818 "2022-04-22T20:17:10Z")

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The thread had been fine, but totally hijacked now. There’s always someone who’ll feed the troll.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5819 "2022-04-22T20:19:00Z")

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Y’all sound angry . . . so not True atheists!

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