# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5840 "2022-04-29T18:45:24Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > As I emotionally heal from my divorce, I have learned to have hope that somewhere, out there, there may be somebody that could possibly care as deeply for me as **nate** does for Elon Musk… I am crying… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5841 "2022-04-29T18:47:39Z")
Well, I was going to comment on how Musk is showing behavior that matches the conspiracy theory mindset of very rich people of the past, like Henry Ford. It ended bad for a lot of people. > **[Ford's Anti-Semitism | American Experience | PBS](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/henryford-antisemitism/)** > > Ford lent authority to the anti-Semitic fears and assumptions of many Americans. Time would tell if Musk is following a similar path, and tweet posts were he used “Woke” as a slur, just makes me fearful of what he is relying for information. Garbage in, and Garbage out is really bad when there is a powerful guy trowing his/her weight around when someone is relying on conspiracy ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5842 "2022-04-29T18:49:40Z")
I think Musk is a garbage person, but please can we take it to another thread? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5843 "2022-04-29T19:00:56Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > A question was asked, it wasn’t suppose to be a just dump on Musk thread. If the question is literally “why do people hate Elon Musk”, the good-faith answers will look unavoidably like dumping on Musk. Doubly so when the question turns out to be entirely rhetorical and intended to start a pointless argument. But this is ATMB talk in a Pit thread, so I’ll junior mod myself and drop that. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5844 "2022-04-29T19:07:57Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > If the question is literally “why do people hate Elon Musk”, the good-faith answers will look unavoidably like dumping on Musk. Yes, it’s not as though anyone would interpret that thread as a deep psychological analysis of why haters need to hate. (Although I suppose it did turn into a psychological analysis of why naters need to nate.) ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5845 "2022-04-29T19:10:52Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Although I suppose it did turn into a psychological analysis of why naters need to nate. That’s the valid Pit angle, apparently: the increasingly shrill and disconnected-from-reality white knighting. It didn’t feel sincere, and even if it were it would be trolling. Asking a question with the explicit reason of getting into pointless argument is the classic definition of trolling behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5846 "2022-04-29T19:41:05Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Although I suppose it did turn into a psychological analysis of why naters need to nate Better Nate than lever ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5847 "2022-04-29T19:45:44Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > A question was asked, it wasn’t suppose to be a just dump on Musk thread. Yeah, I have no problem with the closure of the thread, nate’s obstructionism wasn’t going to go away. But note that it wasn’t originally a “just dump on Musk” thread. There was a lot of coherent discussion about whether, how and to what extent certain actions by Musk justified criticism and/or contempt for him. Until nate decided to try to stonewall any and all criticism of Musk by essentially just repeating “I’m right, you’re wrong, why don’t you care about the truth?” to every rebuttal. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5848 "2022-04-29T19:58:32Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Besides what was left to say?⁢ I suspect a decent amount, as Musk is in the news for his Twitter buyout, and he’s already committed actions that are making people angry. For example, he’s backing up Steven Crowder’s claim that the government are being “Nazi’s” to have a department focused on disinformation. Maybe that thread was tainted, but I don’t think it necessarily was a pit thread before nate was pissing everyone off and attacking the very message board (and its users) for their posts. I don’t think it was a pitting of Musk, as most people were calmly discussing things, not ranting. I do have one more thing I want to say, but (1) it relates to an ATMB thread and (2) I’m worried you’ll be offended. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5849 "2022-04-29T20:00:47Z")
The Twitter bit has its own thread anyway. > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter/963442): > > What would prevent Jack Dorsey from building a different type of Social Media platform that rivals Twitter? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5850 "2022-04-29T20:18:54Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > {…} Besides what was left to say? Elon Musk is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5851 "2022-04-29T20:35:36Z")
Grimes? Is that you? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5852 "2022-04-29T20:35:39Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Elon Musk is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life. I’ll free you from Musk’s basement now. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5853 "2022-04-29T21:11:57Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Musk’s basement Now you’re disrespecting his loop tunnel? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5854 "2022-04-29T22:24:24Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Musk’s basement The real reason for Boring Company. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5855 "2022-04-30T02:36:22Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > TedBaiamonte “Why Republican capitalism better” is suspect. I didn’t participate, but was wondering if they were suggesting that “Republican capitalism” is somehow different from “Democratic capitalism”? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5856 "2022-04-30T15:06:17Z")
I always supported Republican Capitalism, Theodore Roosevelt Trust Busting type. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5857 "2022-04-30T16:53:35Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > were suggesting that “Republican capitalism” is somehow different from “Democratic capitalism” I couldn’t figure out if it was a non-english speaking poster, struggling to make a point, or just a spamming troll. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5858 "2022-04-30T17:52:43Z")
Both! ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5859 "2022-05-01T01:29:28Z")
Ted is stinking up P&E with the same arguments that got the prior Good Capitalism thread shut down with massive spin-based attacks on the left as usual. I have my popcorn, but can’t be bothered to feed obvioustroll. And since it’s so obvious, leaning towards a quick ignore prior to the probably inevitable ban. Why was Marx wrong about capitalism? - is the thread in question if people want to go look. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=68) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=70)