# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5940 "2022-05-17T22:05:53Z")
The Borg have troubles with pronouns at times. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5941 "2022-05-17T22:19:56Z")
He’s trying to take the position of a professor or other authority figure. “Please tell the class why you think that’s incorrect.” “By all means, help us understand your point of view.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5942 "2022-05-18T01:57:47Z")
Ah, the royal we. Monarch of Trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5943 "2022-05-18T02:24:51Z")
I would have said that trolls were too chaotic to have a monarch. Learn something new every day. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5944 "2022-05-18T05:45:16Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I would have said that trolls were too chaotic to have a monarch. If Trump can be president… ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5945 "2022-05-18T07:24:43Z")
Of course, the have a king. the Mountain King. You may even have heard his theme tune… [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lo2e6WwUYKE/maxresdefault.jpg "♪ Erasure - In The Hall Of The Mountain King (Original Version)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo2e6WwUYKE) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5946 "2022-05-18T14:19:59Z")
Indeed - they smile as the puppets dance, in the court of the - or, wait, wait. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5947 "2022-05-18T18:27:14Z")
I can only see the replies but it sounds like **SeñorBurro** is doing his best to derail the latest gun control thread with a bunch of whataboutism. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5948 "2022-05-18T18:55:09Z")
The Gun thread was derailed almost immediately with the automobile whataboutism. By the time it was brought to the mods attention, it was far too late to fix the thread. So for those that love arguing about guns, it is a thread for arguing about guns. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5949 "2022-05-18T19:02:00Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > So for those that love arguing about guns, it is a thread for arguing about guns. If someone brings up cars in a gun thread there should be an obligation to retreat and call the mods. It is not a defense to stand your ground in the thread and argue back. If it’s your own thread, maybe the castle doctrine applies, though. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5950 "2022-05-18T19:02:46Z")
His basic premise is that we are all complicit for every death caused by everything, but only gun-rights folks have the moral integrity to admit that they’re willing to trade innocent lives for gun rights. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5951 "2022-05-18T19:07:19Z")
Never bring a car to a gunfight. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5952 "2022-05-18T19:07:39Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > So for those that love arguing about guns, it is a thread for arguing about guns. Or you could close it, because omnibus threads are against the rules. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5953 "2022-05-18T19:09:05Z")
They are a good alternative to omnicars to be fair. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5954 "2022-05-18T19:14:49Z")
Or not close it because that’s the point - if every thread even tangentially related to guns is closed, the trolls have succeeded in their trollery ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5955 "2022-05-18T19:15:07Z")
> [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#): > > They are a good alternative to omnicars to be fair. And _nobody_ is arguing for omnicars to be against the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5956 "2022-05-18T19:19:25Z")
The trolls succeed in their trollery because “by the time it was brought to the mods attention, it was far too late to fix the thread”. So that’s on us for not reporting earlier, I guess. Although disclaimer, I don’t consider myself a troll and I participated in the initial comparison to DUIs, which I thought was and is on-topic. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5957 "2022-05-18T20:10:04Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > The Gun thread was derailed almost immediately with the automobile whataboutism. By the time it was brought to the mods attention, it was far too late to fix the thread. So for those that love arguing about guns, it is a thread for arguing about guns. This is… one way to handle that thread. But since it’s how EVERY gun control thread is handled, i doubt it is worth the effort of an ATMB thread. Thanks for confirming I was wasting my time reporting posts in that thread though, I won’t waste my time or yours in the future. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5958 "2022-05-18T20:30:56Z")
It is not an omnibus thread at this point. Also I have a very low amount of give a shit about gun threads and tend to think that many on both sides argue disingenuously and love to cherry pick, strawman, what-about and etc. I’ve moderated a few very tightly and must have succeeded as some posters on both sides were upset by the moderation. No one is covering new ground and I’m close to adding it to the list of tired debates if the rest of the staff agrees. But I’m not doing any of this at this time. Just letting you know that gun debate is very tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/5959 "2022-05-18T20:48:05Z")
We’re getting pretty far afield (as usual when the trolls aren’t entertaining) but there are a few threads on guns that are interesting and useful, I’ve been in a few ([even created one!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-or-those-close-to-you-purchased-a-firearm-in-the-last-2-years-covid-insurrection-mass-shootings/941915)). Having said that, some people, and it’s often _the same people_ on both sides are bound and determined to drag what is sometimes a narrowly defined discussion to such a general level that it inevitably becomes mired in the same tired ruts. I don’t think it’s quite at the level of the tired debates, but OPs on both sides of the debate would be much better off to write tight, narrow focused OPs to discuss single issues and for all of us to flag 'em when they go off topic. How to do that w/out junior modding when people’s dander gets up though . . . it’s so much easier to jump in rather than flag and wait, especially when someone else already has on either side of the issue. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=75)