# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6000 "2022-05-20T01:00:51Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > You know, I normally don’t bother posting in such threads because they almost always end up cornfielded, but you’ve encouraged me to do so. I’m pretty sure that’s an extra 4 hours in purgatory for me, but meh. 4 hours of purgatory will be totally worth it. But all the troll-poking, as predicted has gone to the cornfield. Oh well. Still worth it. Speaking of which, does everyone know that particular Twilight Zone episode had a sequel? 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6001 "2022-05-20T20:35:44Z")
And **TedBaimonte** pulled a ban, oh frabjous day! > [@TedBaiamonte banned for Sealioning and ignoring mod instruction](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tedbaiamonte-banned-for-sealioning-and-ignoring-mod-instruction/964791): > > Also Obsessive behavior : So 17 of the first 40 posts in [“The Rotten Core of Our Political System”](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rotten-core-of-our-political-system/964611) thread. See his thread: [Why was Marx wrong about capitalism?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-marx-wrong-about-capitalism/963744) 25 of the 62 posts. etc. Warning issued : You were already modnoted about empty posts like this one. You appear to be a Sealioning Troll and as such I will be asking the mods to ban you. You are also suspended for a day in the meantime. etc. @Aspenglow noted his trollness pretty much day 1. Bordering on a troll. I promised a Wa… ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6002 "2022-05-21T12:16:18Z")
Honestly, Whack-a-Mole’s never really been on my trolldar, but he’s sealioning like an octopus in the ATMB thread about whether dehumanizing language should be acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6003 "2022-05-21T13:38:40Z")
That doesn’t seem to be sealioning. He’s making arguments against basically censoring a word. I stopped using the word a fairly long time ago, but I somewhat sympathize with his position. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6004 "2022-05-21T15:15:25Z")
With the original actor’s (Bill Mumy of Lost in Space fame) actual daughter playing his daughter. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6005 "2022-05-21T15:20:04Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > (Bill Mumy of Lost in Space fame Wow, this reminds me of this recent xkcd > [@­xkcd thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-thread/854574/1387): > I know Mumy much better from Babylon 5. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6006 "2022-05-21T15:21:57Z")
Which of us is which in this scenario? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6007 "2022-05-21T15:41:39Z")
Honestly not sure. He had a larger role in Lost in Space, but Babylon 5 is 30 years more recent, and he was still an important character. Though, at this point, Babylon 5 is getting pretty old itself, so his _most_ recent role in Lost in Space, even as just a cameo, may make that one more relevant. As far as the twilight zone episode, I think that’s more of a cult classic. I hadn’t ever heard about it until people started talking about cornfields on this board. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6008 "2022-05-21T15:58:47Z")
It was one of the episodes redone for the movie though. It has had a sequel and I think the 80s Twilight Zone revival also touched on it. It is one of their most famous episodes. Lost in Space, probably age dependent, if you can even vaguely remember the Beatles still being together, that is probably Bill Mumy’s signature role. If you’re younger, I can see it being B5. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6009 "2022-05-21T16:19:13Z")
And now playing the concern troll card. “If we can’t run around screaming slurs wherever, whenever, and to whomever we want, then the bigots will win!” ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6010 "2022-05-21T16:31:08Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > And now playing the concern troll card. I don’t think he’s a troll, his skull is just so thick that his head is just one big solid bone. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6011 "2022-05-21T16:35:41Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > his skull is just so thick that his head is just one big solid bone I had assumed he was the whacker. But perhaps he’s the mole? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6012 "2022-05-21T16:38:36Z")
He’s pursuing an argument. The fact that you don’t like his argument or the point he is trying to make doesn’t make him any of the terms you have used against him (pronoun assumed). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6013 "2022-05-21T17:03:12Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > He’s pursuing an argument The argument that he is pursuing is so stupid that there are two possibilities. 1. he actually believes it 2. he is trolling. K9bfriender seems to be giving him the benefit of the doubt. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6014 "2022-05-21T17:12:45Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > He’s pursuing an argument. Yes, disingenuously. Just because someone is making an argument doesn’t mean that they are making that argument in good faith. > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > The fact that you don’t like his argument or the point he is trying to make doesn’t make him any of the terms you have used against him (pronoun assumed). Except that that’s not what I said, so you to assert it as a “fact” is not only presumptuous, but also entirely wrong. It’s not that I don’t like his argument or the point he is trying to make. It’s _how_ he makes his argument by “asking questions” and how he passive aggressively asserts his points that’s very trollery. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6015 "2022-05-21T17:16:31Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > 1. he actually believes it > 2. he is trolling. There’s also: 1. he actually believes it but presents it in such a way that it’s indistinguishable from 2. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6016 "2022-05-21T17:23:12Z")
Regarding **Whack-a-Mole** my view is actually closest to @Skywatcher. I don’t think he’s a troll, but, well, he reminds me of a certain class of anti-vaxxer / anti-masker. He just doesn’t want to be TOLD what to do. It’s more childish (a behavior class with many troll overlaps) than intentionally offensive. While the motivation is ‘don’t tell me what to do’, smarter individuals then cloak the sentiment in intellectual dodges: Freedom, Intellectual Honesty, Free speech or other high-minded defenses, but it’s still a dodge for the underlying motivations. Which is why they become so vehement (and trollish) when they defend themselves, because they’re obviously on the side of Good, with such high minded motivations after all. So again, very possible they believe that their arguments and motivations are pure, but the underlying assumptions are mostly selfish IMHO, and are functionally trollish. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6017 "2022-05-21T17:41:04Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Regarding **Whack-a-Mole** my view is actually closest to @Skywatcher. I don’t think he’s a troll, but, well, he reminds me of a certain class of anti-vaxxer / anti-masker. He just doesn’t want to be TOLD what to do. It’s more childish (a behavior class with many troll overlaps) than intentionally offensive. Yeah, I think I made my feelings clear and I vehemently disagree with what WaM is saying. But I don’t see it as trolling. I see it as excusing being a jerk, but it’s a legitimate (if completely wrong) argument to make. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6018 "2022-05-21T17:44:47Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > While the motivation is ‘don’t tell me what to do’, smarter individuals then cloak the sentiment in intellectual dodges: Freedom, Intellectual Honesty, Free speech or other high-minded defenses Less smart individuals just sing it: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/agvibm7Wqy4/maxresdefault.jpg "Kid Rock - Don't Tell Me How To Live (Official Video) - ft. Monster Truck") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agvibm7Wqy4) ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6019 "2022-05-21T19:02:58Z")
I went a bit sour on Whack-a-Mole after his behaviour in the Simone Biles thread. Victim blaming is the kindest thing you could say. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=78)