# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 92
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6300 "2022-06-26T21:09:30Z")
I’m sorry you must put this complaint in the following form, ‘BigT is a \_\_\_\_\_ because \_\_\_\_\_\_.’ 😚 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6301 "2022-06-26T21:11:38Z")
But you needed to use 1000 words to tell me that and bring up a dozen irrelevant things. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6302 "2022-06-26T21:13:21Z")
Yes, and meanwhile we all know it’s really because BigT is still mad about the other issue. Deep breaths. You’re doing fine. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6303 "2022-06-26T21:20:36Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > But you needed to use 1000 words to tell me that and bring up a dozen irrelevant things. Do you feel an obligation as a mod to read BigT’s posts? I mean, nobody else reads them. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6304 "2022-06-26T21:22:16Z")
FWIW, I have no opinion on **Bloody\_Jesus** ’ recently closed thread (because I couldn’t read the OP, and had no interest in going though the mouse strokes to change that and then change it back) other than I suspect bad faith as I am convinced he is a concern troll. I mean, on its face I, sympathetic to the topic, I just don’t think _he_ is. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6305 "2022-06-26T21:22:19Z")
I can’t put him on ignore. But I should have skipped over his post. I did make the mistake of reading it. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6306 "2022-06-26T21:23:12Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Yes, and meanwhile we all know it’s really because BigT is still mad about the other issue. Yes. Remember, @What_Exit, while the bitching is directed at you, it’s all about him. 🙄 I’d take you at your most whiney, bitchy moments before giving BigT the time of day. And again, would not do your job as unpaid, second job working surrogate mother and referee even for all the shiny jackboots in the world. ETA - FTR, I don’t hate BigT, but they have a certain tendency to go ‘look at me, look at me’ and ‘help help I’m being oppressed’ that makes me skim their posts more often than not. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6307 "2022-06-26T21:39:15Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > ETA - FTR, I don’t hate BigT, but they have a certain tendency to go ‘look at me, look at me’ and ‘help help I’m being oppressed’ that makes me skim their posts more often than not. No imho Big T spends way too much time trying on other peoples shoes. Not that there’s anything wrong with that {NTTAWWT} I skim his posts too, other peoples posts too. YADA ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6308 "2022-06-26T21:39:59Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I did make the mistake of reading it. Rest assured, you are not the first to find him annoying. > [@The fingerwaggin' BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fingerwaggin-bigt/793187/33): > > If BigT were delivering the Sermon on the Mount he’d find a way to make it about him > [@The fingerwaggin' BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fingerwaggin-bigt/793187): > > BigT, this isn’t about you posting your opinions on the internet, thousands of people do that everyday and the vast majority manage to do so without rolling a single eyeball. But you, again and again you manage to post the most lecturing, pontificating, moralising, holier than thou weenie bullshit that does nothing but put peoples backs up. Again and again a thread will be motoring on with all the usual varied viewpoints until wham, a BigT lecture turd dumped right there for everybody to shake … > [@BigThanks to BigT!!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482): > > Hi there, BigT! I have to thank you for pointing out to me the error of my ways. In [this post](http://http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13317994&postcount=86) of the [Friend Talking \*\*\* About My Daughter](http://http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=591385) thread, you call me out on posting something irrelevant to the thread. For those of you not following along at home, I’ll just say that the OP of that thread was upset because his best friend had made sexual comments about his underage daughter, and I linked to a different thread in which that OP had chastised a pit thread full of posters for not being tole… > [@Goddamn it BigT, stop bumping ATMB threads you fucking knob.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-it-bigt-stop-bumping-atmb-threads-you-fucking-knob/637819): > > For the last week or two, every time I wander into ATMB there’s a thread that had died weeks ago back at the top of the list. “Oh, did something interesting happen?” I wonder as I click on it. No, it’s just BigT, finally ready to share his opinion on the topic with all of us after weeks of contemplation: [Pointless bump after 16 days](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15570412#post15570412)[Pointless bump after 36 days](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15570444#post15570444)[Pointless bump after 60 days](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15570475#post15570475) And just now: [Pointless bump after 42 days](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15593082#post15593082) These would all be fine if he actually had something pro… I think he has had an easier time of it more recently not through any change in behavior, but because the use of “retard” is now more strongly deprecated, eliminating the standard imprecation “Shut up, Big []”. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6309 "2022-06-26T21:49:13Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Yet it had such an impact that people are talking about it nearly 20 years later. I think this happened right around when I found the board. I remember the “My post is my cite” guy Aldebaran for the same reason. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6310 "2022-06-26T22:00:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > In reality, they were only around for a day: **March 7, 2003.** That was when the account was both created and blocked. Well, they had no one but themself to blame for the bad timing. Everybody knows that _February_ is Grape month. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6311 "2022-06-26T22:09:58Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > even for all the shiny jackboots in the world Isn’t it sparkly jackboots? I might, just might, consider it for _sparkly_ jackboots. Shiny don’t cut it… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6312 "2022-06-26T22:14:01Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > > [@ParallelLines](#): > > > > even for all the shiny jackboots in the world > > Isn’t it sparkly jackboots? I might, just might, consider it for _sparkly_ jackboots. Shiny don’t cut it… - The Sparkly Jackboots were retired and placed in the Mod Hall Of Fame. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6313 "2022-06-26T22:15:33Z")
I haz a sad. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6314 "2022-06-27T01:59:33Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > This weekend has been predictably shitty one to mod on the dope. What pushes me over the edge? Right Wing assholes? Posters getting too riled up at each other? > > No, the finger-wagging, far too wordy, bringing up old bullshit no ones else remembers asshole **BigT**. Fucking guy is too much. > > This post is ridiculous. > [Don't get it, What Exit? - #21 by BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-get-it-what-exit/966897/21) > > Fuck you for making this job so much harder than it has to be. > > * * * > > * * * > > Oh, please note, I’m uncharacteristically pissed off right now. Think about how rarely I curse on this board and how rarely I attack another poster. Congrats **BigT** , you’ve trolled me well. I hope you’re happy at least. > > ## Fucking Jerk. ⁢ I’m sorry you’re having a bad time this weekend. It’s obviously not my intent to make your life worse. But I can’t at all agree your response here is fair at all. I should be able to criticize your moderation, as long as I avoid personal attacks. That’s what ATMB is for. And there is nothing remotely wrong with a longer post. I write them that way because (1) the topics on this board tend to require nuance; (2) people very often seem to misunderstand me if I don’t lay out my entire argument from front to back and (3) because I know that short, terse posts tend to be seen as more insulting than longer posts that try to be more detached. I don’t think I’m “making your job harder” when I just expect you to take one extra sentence to explain yourself. And I don’t think it’s wrong to point out that the way you do write can come off badly. And I do think it is fair to point out that you treat posters who you think are trolling or otherwise differently than you do other posters. I do think your feelings often change how you moderate. When you seem to respect a poster, you do seem to explain. When you don’t, you don’t. It’s not even like you explained what the hell is wrong with my post. Rather than point out why I was wrong, you attacked me. And I don’t think that’s fair. If I as a poster can’t rant about the way a moderator mods, then how is it fair for a mod to be able to attack posters for their responses to moderation? Look, I’m sorry I made your weekend worse. My life isn’t great either. I have medical issues that I don’t bring up here. I’m having to go to a neurologist soon. And possibly a GI doctor. And I seem to remember you’ve had a death of someone close to you recently, and I very much empathize with that. But I can’t see anything I actually did was any different than other posters will respond when they disagree with moderation. And I don’t see a way to bring up these issues that I believe are legitimate without you getting mad. And it would be wrong for me to keep silent when I see a moderation that I think was poorly done. And I do take objection to you not allowing a poster to try and figure out how to mitigate something as horrible as the overturn of Roe v. Wade. And I would say Roe is far more important than anything else mentioned here. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6315 "2022-06-27T02:01:47Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Rest assured, you are not the first to find him annoying. But it seems that people mostly get annoyed by me saying things they don’t like. It doesn’t usually seem they have any moral issue with what I said, yet they get as mad as I do at bigotry or the like. That is what I never get. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6316 "2022-06-27T02:02:54Z")
Oh my fucking god, you stupid dumb ass troll. Look at the word vomit you just spewed. Fuck off with your unreadible wall of crap. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6317 "2022-06-27T02:06:08Z")
Complaining about Big T’s wall of text get us another wall of text. A million eyes just glazed over. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6318 "2022-06-27T02:08:21Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Complaining about Big T’s wall of text get us another wall of text. Yep. W\_E, my dude, turn off the computer for a bit. You’re frustrated about a lot of stuff and you’re letting him become the focal point of your frustration - and he’s absolutely going to let himself be the center of your attention for as long as you’re willing to give him the limelight. You’re a good mod and he’s not worth the mental indigestion. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6319 "2022-06-27T02:08:45Z")
I generally dislike reading BigT’s posts because they are inane and often long and pointless, but I don’t see any evidence he is trolling. Being an annoying person isn’t the same thing as being a troll–one can be annoying as a simple personality trait, trolling implies a deliberate action. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=91) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=93)