# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 1
**Showing post:** 9541

<div class="post-metadata">

### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9541 "2023-06-09T15:46:23Z")

</div>

> [@ParallelLines](#):
>
> Polite request?
> 
> I agree that a long talk about how we (well, not WE but you get my drift) lump together all non-visa’d immigration (temporary or otherwise) is worthy of a long talk both here and IRL. But, whether or not it’s in ATMB, maybe not in _this_ thread? I think it’s a great thread idea even in great debates, and much more so than the thread the troll spawned.

Agreed–but I definitely think it’s an ATMB discussion.

> [@"Illegals" and "invaders" should be moderated as hate speech in the context of immigration debates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illegals-and-invaders-should-be-moderated-as-hate-speech-in-the-context-of-immigration-debates/985244):
>
> I’d like to talk about three terms that show up in discussions of immigration: Illegal immigrants Illegals Invaders (and “invasion”) First, “Illegal immigrants” is a term that is falling out of use among experts in the field. [The DOJ no longer uses it](https://www.npr.org/2021/04/19/988789487/immigration-agencies-ordered-not-to-use-term-illegal-alien-under-new-biden-polic). [The AP Style Guide hasn’t used it for ten years](https://blog.ap.org/announcements/illegal-immigrant-no-more). Linguists decry it as “[neither accurate nor neutral](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/06/illegal-immigrant-label-offensive-wrong-activists-say)”.But I don’t think it should be considered hate speech. It’s the equivalent of an outdated term like “Negro” to describe a Black person: use it…

---

_[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518)._
