# Trotsky. For the lack of God, Trotsky. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914 "2007-05-29T14:36:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/61 "2007-05-29T15:56:32Z")
> [@Trotsky](#): > > You guys apparently need a (quoting cecil now) loud gong, firecracker, or air raid siren for sarcasm. I thought the ?? and smily about NK being islamic would do it. Nice save. Glad to have helped clear that up for you. ---
**Author:** ![Trotsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Trotsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trotsky)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/62 "2007-05-29T15:58:27Z")
Frankly, this is a great example of the left just now. I’ve made a lot of arguments on here, and sarcasm too. And outright insults. I’ve received mostly just insults and a few arguments. Mostly insults. Now, maybe it’s cause I’m a noob, ok. But overall, you can just see how the leftist bias here causes people to ignore the leftist insults and my arguments completely, yet focus on any insults I have done. Good study points. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/63 "2007-05-29T15:58:58Z")
[QUOTE=Trotsky] You guys apparently need a (quoting cecil now) loud gong, firecracker, or air raid siren for sarcasm. [/QUOTE] No, they just think you’re so dumb that they expect you to really believe it’s an Islamic country. I haven’t seen your posts before, so you must have made quite an impression! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/64 "2007-05-29T15:59:13Z")
Hey, now, gotta watch out for those North Korean Jihadists… It’s a troll, and a mindblowingly stupid and obvious one at that. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/65 "2007-05-29T16:00:31Z")
[QUOTE=Trotsky] I’ve made a lot of arguments on here… [/QUOTE] In all of your seventy-odd posts, I have yet to see you put together a single argument. I don’t think that word means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/66 "2007-05-29T16:00:49Z")
You know, folks, I sometimes get exasperated with **Shodan** when he goes into his rugged-cross routine about how the poor conservatives are so victimized on the SDMB. But I wouldn’t have wished even **Shodan** a teammate like this. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/67 "2007-05-29T16:01:08Z")
[QUOTE=Trotsky] Frankly, this is a great example of the left just now. I’ve made a lot of arguments on here, and sarcasm too. And outright insults. I’ve received mostly just insults and a few arguments. Mostly insults. Now, maybe it’s cause I’m a noob, ok. But overall, you can just see how the leftist bias here causes people to ignore the leftist insults and my arguments completely, yet focus on any insults I have done. Good study points. [/QUOTE] You’ve made no argument. You’ve made statements, but you haven’t backed them up with anything. At all. All you’ve said is “I think this”. Provide cites, make an actual argument, and then we’ll see what happens, shall we? Anyway, I’m focusing on your argument. I’m refuting your stance on liberalism and capitalism. You’re now ignoring that. Who’s the one avoiding argument? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/68 "2007-05-29T16:01:12Z")
Actually, you’ve made no **arguments** at all. An argument is a carefully constructed series of statements designed to present and back up a position. **Trotsky** : No, it isn’t! ---
**Author:** ![Trotsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Trotsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trotsky)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/69 "2007-05-29T16:01:16Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Hey, now, gotta watch out for those North Korean Jihadists… It’s a troll, and a mindblowingly stupid and obvious one at that. [/QUOTE] _sets off a firecracker_ ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/70 "2007-05-29T16:02:55Z")
Keep him talking, folks. We’re fighting the ignorance here in the Pit so we don’t have to fight it over there in GD. ---
**Author:** ![Trotsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Trotsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trotsky)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/71 "2007-05-29T16:03:16Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] You’ve made no argument. You’ve made statements, but you haven’t backed them up with anything. At all. All you’ve said is “I think this”. Provide cites, make an actual argument, and then we’ll see what happens, shall we? Anyway, I’m focusing on your argument. I’m refuting your stance on liberalism and capitalism. You’re now ignoring that. Who’s the one avoiding argument? [/QUOTE] Funny, all I’ve seen is others doing the same. No facts, just opinions. And that’s not an argument? I don’t see any sources in any responses to my posts, just insults and/or leftist rhetoric. Yours included. ---
**Author:** ![Trotsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Trotsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trotsky)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/72 "2007-05-29T16:04:19Z")
[QUOTE=Kimstu] Keep him talking, folks. We’re fighting the ignorance here in the Pit so we don’t have to fight it over there in GD. [/QUOTE] Funny, keeping the leftists here is my effort of the same. ---
**Author:** ![milquetoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@milquetoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milquetoast)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/73 "2007-05-29T16:04:26Z")
[QUOTE=Kimstu] Keep him talking, folks. We’re fighting the ignorance here in the Pit so we don’t have to fight it over there in GD. [/QUOTE] Buh-frickin’-rilliant!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/74 "2007-05-29T16:06:37Z")
[QUOTE=Trotsky] _sets off a firecracker_ [/QUOTE] Don’t blow your fingers off- you wouldn’t be able to post! ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/75 "2007-05-29T16:09:22Z")
[QUOTE=Trotsky] Funny, all I’ve seen is others doing the same. No facts, just opinions. And that’s not an argument? I don’t see any sources in any responses to my posts, just insults and/or leftist rhetoric. Yours included. [/QUOTE] Fair enough. From what sources would a cite be acceptable to you? You aren’t a fan of wikipedia, for example, so could you guide me as to sources you’d find reasonable? ---
**Author:** ![Trotsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Trotsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trotsky)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/76 "2007-05-29T16:12:37Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] Fair enough. From what sources would a cite be acceptable to you? You aren’t a fan of wikipedia, for example, so could you guide me as to sources you’d find reasonable? [/QUOTE] I actually don’t mind wikipedia overall. If you have any sources from them, I’ll listen. Problem is, I’m responding to peoples’ opinions of the war, not the facts. I’m held to a higher standard apparently because I have a conversative and pro-war viewpoint. BTW, people ask my age and so on, I can’t prove anything.. But I’m over 28 and under 40. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/77 "2007-05-29T16:21:02Z")
[QUOTE=Trotsky] Problem is, I’m responding to peoples’ opinions of the war, not the facts. I’m held to a higher standard apparently because I have a conversative and pro-war viewpoint. [/QUOTE] No you aren’t. You have made many silly claims without bothering to back them up. That is the same standard everyone is held to. You seem to find it outrageous, and now you feel persecuted. Can you see my house from up on that cross? ---
**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/78 "2007-05-29T16:23:33Z")
So, 29 then? I mean, 28 is a pretty arbitrary lower limit. ---
**Author:** ![Trotsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Trotsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trotsky)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/79 "2007-05-29T16:24:31Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] No you aren’t. You have made many silly claims without bothering to back them up. That is the same standard everyone is held to. You seem to find it outrageous, and now you feel persecuted. Can you see my house from up on that cross? [/QUOTE] Well, I call people marxist when they cite US imperialism and class warfare. Do I need to look up the exact ‘What Shall Be Done’ Lenin quotes to back up my claims? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914/80 "2007-05-29T16:27:23Z")
[QUOTE=Trotsky] Well, I call people marxist when they cite US imperialism and class warfare. Do I need to look up the exact ‘What Shall Be Done’ Lenin quotes to back up my claims? [/QUOTE] I was talking about your claims that most of the insurgents are foreign, and specifically, Kuwaiti. That is unsupportable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trotsky-for-the-lack-of-god-trotsky/405914.md?page=5)