# Trouble in Paradise (Mafia Game Thread)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 23, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585 "2015-10-23T22:52:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/301 "2015-10-30T13:07:09Z")

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Octarine, Hooker, Mahaloth, Suburban Plankton, and Dante G: do you have a preference between Prof. Pepperwinkle & Sario? If so, would you care to vote that preference?

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/302 "2015-10-30T13:08:31Z")

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Preview would have been my friend, didn’t notice Hooker had posted since I loaded the page.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/303 "2015-10-30T13:44:19Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Octarine, Hooker, Mahaloth, Suburban Plankton, and Dante G: do you have a preference between Prof. Pepperwinkle & Sario? If so, would you care to vote that preference?

I still think it is Biotop, but I see zippo case on Pepper. So I guess I’d prefer Sario. I don’t think we are going to tie, but I will vote to help make sure.

\*\*unvote Biotop  
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\*\*Vote Sario  
\*\*  
Sorry, Sario. Scum or not, it always sucks to die on Day 1. Believe me, I know. I’ve died tons on Day 1 both as scum and as town. We really have no clue and are just crossing our fingers.

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/304 "2015-10-30T14:31:21Z")

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Dear town,

I’m interested in who you think would be most beneficial for a role like an investigator to target tonight. I think any of the top posters (me, Astral, Prof P, sfaulkner, WFTomba), would be a good target, but I’m interested if others think a low volume poster might be a better target (Mahaloth).

(Asking for a friend.)

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/305 "2015-10-30T14:34:18Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
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> Dear town,
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> I’m interested in who you think would be most beneficial for a role like an investigator to target tonight. I think any of the top posters (me, Astral, Prof P, sfaulkner, WFTomba), would be a good target, but I’m interested if others think a low volume poster might be a better target (Mahaloth).
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> (Asking for a friend.)

I’m always very hesitant to suggest what our power roles should do. It gives scum a better idea of what might transpire at night as well. I just about always think it’s better just left up to them.

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/306 "2015-10-30T14:47:47Z")

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I can see that for doctor, but I don’t see how they counter investigations. Some can be countered by not acting, but that assumes they have a solid enough read to know they should skip the action and at worst negates that action. Still, I’m interested in the discussion as the day wanes, be it “Hooker needs to be checked out!” or “Asking is a bad idea.”

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**Author:** ![Sario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sario/32/18580_2.png) [@Sario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sario)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/307 "2015-10-30T15:08:49Z")

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I’m in the process of writing up my thoughts on all the players. I should have that up before EOD.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/308 "2015-10-30T15:11:28Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
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> Dear town,
> 
> I’m interested in who you think would be most beneficial for a role like an investigator to target tonight. I think any of the top posters (me, Astral, Prof P, sfaulkner, WFTomba), would be a good target, but I’m interested if others think a low volume poster might be a better target (Mahaloth).
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> (Asking for a friend.)

I’d just let the investigator decide on his/her own.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/309 "2015-10-30T15:19:38Z")

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I will not be here for end of day, but will post results about an hour afterwards, but your guess is as good as mine regarding time zones.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/310 "2015-10-30T15:21:14Z")

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Yay! Go town.

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/311 "2015-10-30T15:33:30Z")

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> [@Sario](#):
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> I’m in the process of writing up my thoughts on all the players. I should have that up before EOD.

better hurry. I will be in transit at EOD. Leaving in \<5 min.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/312 "2015-10-30T15:38:40Z")

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I’m still thinking Prof P is scum and am leaving my vote there. I’ll check back in a few hours to see how we did.

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**Author:** ![Sario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sario/32/18580_2.png) [@Sario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sario)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/313 "2015-10-30T15:44:27Z")

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I ran out of time, so I only have a partial list:

Astral Rejection - Overall, his posts read town, but I know that his scum play can appear to be quite townish. Tomba’s post about a wolf bandwagon on a lurker is distinct possibility. Conclusion: Neutral with a town lean.

Biotop - Middle of the road as far as post count goes, but pretty good on content. I like his vote on Prof. Conclusion: 7/10 town

Dante G - Another average post count, but the content could be better. Seems to have a greater tendency to fluff and/or meat posting. Has stayed true to his vote on Mahaloth. Conclusion: Neutral

DeadCat - Newbie that seems to be playing very well. Town lean.

HookerChemical - Good scum hunting. Good Town lean.

IRConfused - Decent count, but the content seems a little thin. Could just be a newbie thing, but it seems IR is just kinda floating along. Neutral with a scum lean.

Mahaloth - Overall some good play. Town lean.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/314 "2015-10-30T15:46:14Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
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> I can see that for doctor, but I don’t see how they counter investigations.

There’s a role called the “watcher,” which is usually (but not always!) town-aligned. If we suggest that the investigator check out that scummy-looking **Johnny Bravo,** a potential scum watcher could decide that keeping an eye on whoever visits JB is a good idea.

Similarly, if scum have to pick a killer to perform the kill, and we ask a town tracker to track that scum, they can make a different choice instead. I think there are a lot of downsides to collectively suggesting what our powers do.

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**Author:** ![IRConfused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/76d3ee/32.png) [@IRConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IRConfused)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/315 "2015-10-30T15:57:28Z")

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> [@Sario](#):
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> I ran out of time, so I only have a partial list:
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> Astral Rejection - Overall, his posts read town, but I know that his scum play can appear to be quite townish. Tomba’s post about a wolf bandwagon on a lurker is distinct possibility. Conclusion: Neutral with a town lean.
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> Biotop - Middle of the road as far as post count goes, but pretty good on content. I like his vote on Prof. Conclusion: 7/10 town
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> Dante G - Another average post count, but the content could be better. Seems to have a greater tendency to fluff and/or meat posting. Has stayed true to his vote on Mahaloth. Conclusion: Neutral
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> DeadCat - Newbie that seems to be playing very well. Town lean.
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> HookerChemical - Good scum hunting. Good Town lean.
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> IRConfused - Decent count, but the content seems a little thin. Could just be a newbie thing, but it seems IR is just kinda floating along. Neutral with a scum lean.
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> Mahaloth - Overall some good play. Town lean.

Not sure what to say here. Many people have been asking for your thoughts but we don’t get anything until 10 minutes before the deadline. Why did you wait so long

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/316 "2015-10-30T16:03:54Z")

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Are we in night now?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/317 "2015-10-30T16:09:59Z")

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Should be.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/318 "2015-10-30T16:11:54Z")

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Yep, we are in night. Update forthcoming when I make it back to a computer.

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**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/319 "2015-10-30T16:15:26Z")

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Why do I get this strange feeling that these two conversations regarding what the power roles should be doing tonight, is actually being discussed amongst Scum players trying to get a lead for good Night Kill.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/320 "2015-10-30T16:16:30Z")

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1. You’ve been a Mod, and therefore have experience as to what they discuss.
2. What else would they be talking about?

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