# Trouble in Paradise (Mafia Game Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585 "2015-10-23T22:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![IRConfused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/76d3ee/32.png) [@IRConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IRConfused)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/841 "2015-12-04T20:49:59Z")
Just finished reading the Scum board and boy did I get lucky. You guys had me pegged and I would have died even if I had not claimed. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/842 "2015-12-04T20:56:56Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Scum’s side? I talked too much and got vig-killed early. Mahaloth lost track of time and outed himself. SP had too many serious problems in real life, so didn’t participate as much as he would have otherwise. It’s all about Biotop this game. I second this. Great job Biotop! ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/843 "2015-12-04T20:58:17Z")
> [@IRConfused](#): > > Just finished reading the Scum board and boy did I get lucky. You guys had me pegged and I would have died even if I had not claimed. You got lucky but you also played smart. Another smart play of yours was NOT investigating Prof P. the first night. If you had done that we would have been a step ahead. So if I may ask, what led you to investigate Mahaloth the first night? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/844 "2015-12-04T21:05:03Z")
Well, I feel foolish now for being so chummy with Biotop! But very well played, sir. It’s hard to see how we might have managed to defeat you, since even when it was down to a 50-50 shot none of the three of us could make a decent case against you. I suppose had I not posted so early yesterDay, we might have managed it, but even then I’m not sure. And yes, congratulations to Johnny Bravo once again on an excellent game. I look forward to my next one - but not for at least several weeks, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/845 "2015-12-04T21:07:43Z")
Dead Cat, you played very, very, very well for your first game! A lot better’n me. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/846 "2015-12-04T21:09:10Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > Well, I feel foolish now for being so chummy with Biotop! But very well played, sir. It’s hard to see how we might have managed to defeat you, since even when it was down to a 50-50 shot none of the three of us could make a decent case against you. I suppose had I not posted so early yesterDay, we might have managed it, but even then I’m not sure. > > And yes, congratulations to Johnny Bravo once again on an excellent game. I look forward to my next one - but not for at least several weeks, I think. No need to feel a fool. He did a good job of blending in. I’m sorry we both got played in the end, but we managed to win it in the end. Diet win is win. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/847 "2015-12-04T21:13:25Z")
DeadCat, it seemed the best case scenario for me when snfaulkner voted for you. Neither you nor Hooker could afford to break the tie by changing your vote to me. If I had switched my vote for you, then the balance would have been broken and either you or Hooker might have been freed to make a case against me. I actually had another long “analysis” post last evening where I switched my vote to you. But just before posting it I realized what a mistake that would be. I threw the two pages of accusations against you into the trash. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/848 "2015-12-04T21:27:44Z")
One last thought. I am going to miss the game. I really enjoyed interacting with the all the players, especially my two pseudo-masons DeadCat and HookerChemical. Even as I was trying to deceive you, there was a part of me pulling for you all to get it right. I hope to encounter you both in another game, and for my sake I hope you are on my side for real the next time! ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/849 "2015-12-04T22:17:01Z")
Well done, Biotop! You had me completely fooled. I would have bet the ranch on Hooker being scum. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/850 "2015-12-04T22:50:38Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Well done, Biotop! You had me completely fooled. I would have bet the ranch on Hooker being scum. Thanks. So close… sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/851 "2015-12-04T23:22:18Z")
I also want to congratulate Johnny Bravo on a great first outing as a Mod.! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/852 "2015-12-05T02:00:04Z")
How was the tie broken? How did we lose? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/853 "2015-12-05T04:29:42Z")
Well, im glad we won. BUT, it does seem quite hollow. Biotop, well played sir, well played. Despite being completely horswaggled by you, at least I was right in not believing your case against hooker. For those that are interested, after my wife visited ridley (our sick foster dog) ladt night, I was sure we’d be putting the poor guy down today. But no! He was alert and way more perjy than he has been and actually ate on his own! Hes not out of the woods yet, but I hope we can bring him home tomorrow or Sunday. Thankfully his owner has the money to pay for treatment. If he was our dog, we would have had to put him down already. At anyrate, phone typing sucks. I’ll catch up with the deathread tomorrow at work. Awesome game everyone and especially or Humble Narrator, Johnny Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![IRConfused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/76d3ee/32.png) [@IRConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IRConfused)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/854 "2015-12-05T07:10:21Z")
```auto ``` > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I still think it is Biotop, but I see zippo case on Pepper. So I guess I’d prefer Sario. I don’t think we are going to tie, but I will vote to help make sure. > > \*\*unvote Biotop > \*\* > \*\*Vote Sario > \*\* > Sorry, Sario. Scum or not, it always sucks to die on Day 1. Believe me, I know. I’ve died tons on Day 1 both as scum and as town. We really have no clue and are just crossing our fingers. **Biotop** , this was the post that made me investigate **Mahaloth** on the first night. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/855 "2015-12-05T10:49:06Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > For those that are interested, after my wife visited ridley (our sick foster dog) ladt night, I was sure we’d be putting the poor guy down today. But no! He was alert and way more perjy than he has been and actually ate on his own! Hes not out of the woods yet, but I hope we can bring him home tomorrow or Sunday. Thankfully his owner has the money to pay for treatment. If he was our dog, we would have had to put him down already. Great news! > [@Mahaloth](#): > > How was the tie broken? How did we lose? ☹ Johnny Bravo asked two players for some rock, paper, scissors choices, and the randomly-chosen wolf side lost. I think. I still say scum had the moral victory on this one - in a game with more usual rules in the event of a tie, they would probably have won. On the other hand, if the rule was that a tie would result in no lynch, we may have avoided the tie on the penultimate Day. IRConfused wins the best town player award for me - without his perfectly-timed information, we would probably have got nowhere near winning. In terms of improving my play for next time, I need to do more listening and less talking, and not take it so personally if someone votes for me. By jumping on Hooker at the end, I got us into a vicious circle of accusing each other which meant Biotop was barely even considered. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/856 "2015-12-05T16:48:05Z")
Oh. I would have thought a tie goes to scum. OK. Good game, folks. I hope someone gets one going soon! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585.md?page=42)