# Trouble in Paradise (Mafia Game Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585 "2015-10-23T22:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 790
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/790 "2015-12-03T17:53:12Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > I think you put together a case against Biotop. To some extent, what followed (circular firing squad) made the quality of that case irrelevant. I see that case as weak and that contributes to my scum read of you. I made a vote against Biotop without much of a case. That was because I wanted to get the conversation started (and in that at least I have clearly succeeded!). As you say, the quality was irrelevant. I think it’s a stretch to give me a scum read on that basis. > [@](#): > > When he came out with a case against me and I came out with a case against you, you seized on his case opportunistically to case a vote against me. The quality of that case is largely irrelevant, because voting with Biotop (or snfaulkner) against me is better than the other option, which are to leave the circular firing squad intact and hand the game to known townie snfaulkner. For scum, two votes on anybody who is not scum is a much stronger position than handing the game to snfaulkner to decide. I made a mistake here, sure, in not allowing snfaulkner to state a case before trying to win the argument. It’s just my style, I guess I rather arrogantly thought I had enough townie cred to ‘carry the day’ and ensure I wasn’t mislynched. I see now that was foolish on my part, especially given I had not posted a decent case at that stage. I got everything in the wrong order. But you will note that for most of the game I have not concerned myself with “looking town”, I have just acted based on what I saw. I didn’t so much as vote for you because you voted for me, or vote for you because Biotop had done so, as change my vote because Biotop convinced me that my reasoning for voting for him was not good. You are then jumping to the conclusion that I must be scum for doing so, and yet now I have reinforced my case, you have still not taken the opportunity to give me reasons not to vote for you. > [@](#): > > The comparison of Biotop’s case for lynching me to my case for lynching you is particularly scummy to me because you’d never vote against yourself. I never made the comparison in those terms - you did. I simply said I found Biotop’s posts more convincing than yours. OK, perhaps that was a statement of the obvious given their content. But you are the one who is banging on about this false equivalence. You could have taken the opportunity to rebut Biotop’s case against you. Instead, you chose to make a case against me and not defend yourself. I appreciate your case against me, judging by the post, was built before you saw Biotop’s post, but you clearly saw Biotop’s post before posting your own and still chose not to address the accusations levelled against you. Even now, you have failed to do so except in rather a limited way. So I still believe you’re the scummiest. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585)._