# Truck Attack in Berlin **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 19, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177 "2016-12-19T20:35:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/1 "2016-12-19T20:35:39Z")
[Developing story](http://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html)…at least nine dead. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/2 "2016-12-19T20:37:16Z")
Link ain’t working for me… ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/3 "2016-12-19T20:38:46Z")
It has two HTTP:// on it. This link should work: > **[ISIS praises 'soldier' who carried out Berlin massacre](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html)** > > A second terror attack in Berlin could be imminent after police admitted the killer lorry driver who mowed down 12 people at a packed Christmas market is on the loose and armed with a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/4 "2016-12-19T20:40:07Z")
[Here’s](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/world/europe/berlin-christmas-market-truck-crash.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news) another link. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/5 "2016-12-19T20:41:47Z")
[Sorry about that.](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html) They’re speculating it’s a terrorist attack. Maybe there was some evidence in the truck. The driver is still at large. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/6 "2016-12-19T20:44:54Z")
This is right by the zoo, correct? I was there this spring and thought I recognized a building on the TV. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/7 "2016-12-19T21:07:24Z")
It happened in front of the Gedächtniskirche, so very close to the zoo. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/8 "2016-12-19T23:33:15Z")
BBC report [here](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/9 "2016-12-20T03:08:16Z")
The truck was loaded with steel beams. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/10 "2016-12-20T03:54:25Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > It happened in front of the Gedächtniskirche, so very close to the zoo. Oh dang. That’s my favorite site in Berlin. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/11 "2016-12-20T03:58:02Z")
[Driver’s caught, and surprise, surprise](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html), he’s a refugee of Afghan heritage, who arrived in Germany in February. The guy who was supposed to be driving the truck, a man of Polish origin, was found dead in the cab, and it’s thought he had been hijacked. FTL: > [@](#): > > Speaking on Polish news channel TVN24, the owner of the haulage firm Ariel Zurawski said his relative would not have committed an act of terror: 'I can say hand on heart that the man who drove into those people in the centre of Berlin was not my driver. > > Just weeks ago, US tourists were warned to be on high alert if visiting traditional markets in Europe due to a heightened terror threat. > > The US State Department issued the advice for citizens travelling to the continent during the holiday season. > > The warning came after it was revealed ISIS encouraged lone jihadis to use trucks as weapons to target large-scale events. > > 'This is my cousin. I’ve known him since I was born. I can vouch for him. > > 'My scenario is that they did something to the driver – they hijacked this vehicle because it was practically in the centre of Berlin and they had a good vehicle with which they could do what they did. > > 'They did something to my driver, God forbid, something serious. It looks like that. > > ‘We haven’t heard from him since this afternoon. We don’t know what happened to him.’ Death toll up to 12 now. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/12 "2016-12-20T04:23:48Z")
And a couple of days ago, a 12-year-old Iraqi-German boy was arrested and accused of [attempting](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/12-year-old-suspected-of-nail-bomb-attempt-in-germany/2016/12/16/68a1f49a-c37e-11e6-92e8-c07f4f671da4_story.html?utm_term=.b5d53f9c3853) to set off a nail bomb in a Christmas market somewhere else in Germany. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/13 "2016-12-20T04:31:15Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > And a couple of days ago, a 12-year-old Iraqi-German boy was arrested and accused of [attempting](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/12-year-old-suspected-of-nail-bomb-attempt-in-germany/2016/12/16/68a1f49a-c37e-11e6-92e8-c07f4f671da4_story.html?utm_term=.b5d53f9c3853) to set off a nail bomb in a Christmas market somewhere else in Germany. The part I love about that story is that he made _two_ attempts to blow up a gathering. His bomb on the 26th of November didn’t go off. From [here](http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/weihnachtsmarkt-in-ludwigshafen-im-auftrag-des-is-zwoelfjaehriger-wollte-nagelbombe-zuenden_id_6363417.html) (a German magazine, hence the Engrish): > [@](#): > > According to the FOCUS, the twelve-year-old deposited a backpack with a self-made ignition device in a bush near the town hall on the 5th of December. Already a few days before, on November 26th, according to FOCUS, he should have tried to light the explosives on the Christmas market. In the backpack was a preserving jar with a bored hole through which a wire protruded. It was filled with blasting powder. From the outside, the container was wrapped with adhesive tape and prepared with nails. It may not be PC, but, provided it’s proven beyond a reasonable doubt the kid did those two attempts, I don’t see why we need to keep people like him around. Or why he needs to keep drawing air. Are you really going to rehabilitate someone like him? ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/14 "2016-12-20T08:50:25Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > [Driver’s caught, and surprise, surprise](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html), he’s a refugee of Afghan heritage, who arrived in Germany in February. The BBC (link: [As it happened: Police investigate Berlin lorry attack - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-38370364) ), citing the German newspaper “Die Welt”, says that the suspect is from Pakistan. > [@BBC](#): > > Suspect named by German paper > Posted at 9:03 > Die Welt, the German national daily newspaper, says the suspect is believed to be a 23 year old who it has named as “Naved B”, from Pakistan. The paper says he was born on 1 January, 1993. > > The newspaper is also reporting that a German special forces unit has stormed a hangar at Berlin’s Tempelhof airport, where it says the suspect had been living in a refugee shelter. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/15 "2016-12-20T09:01:52Z")
> [@JoseB](#): > > The BBC (link: [As it happened: Police investigate Berlin lorry attack - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-38370364) ), citing the German newspaper “Die Welt”, says that the suspect is from Pakistan. That’s what I heard too, but it’s still no surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/16 "2016-12-20T13:19:18Z")
Great. Now they think the suspect is probably not the driver and the real driver might still be on the loose. > **[Berlin attack: German police unsure suspect was in lorry](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38379157)** > > German authorities say they cannot be sure a man arrested was behind the deadly Berlin lorry attack. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truck-attack-in-berlin/775177/17 "2016-12-20T14:07:29Z")
I guess they can’t say the man was Pakistani, since they apparently have the wrong person. :eek: