# Truckers vs Superbowl fans - who wins?

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**Created:** [February 13, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386 "2022-02-13T01:47:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/21 "2022-02-13T14:29:26Z")

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The irony is these truckers are doing much more harm to the cause of freedom than their selfish protests helps anything. They are inviting tyranny and those who love freedom are greatly saddened by what they see is being done. purposely misstated as in the name of freedom.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Football is less and less of a kids’ game these days.

Agree, and where is it written that adults can’t have games to play? I certainly didn’t get that memo.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/22 "2022-02-13T14:50:11Z")

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I was also going to point out that most Superbowl tickets are corporate. Heck, one year my brother was grumpy that he had to go. But his employer wanted to send a client, and it’s legal client entertainment if he went, too, but an illegal kickback if they just gave tickets to the client. So my brother had to fly out and miss a weekend with his kids, which is what he would have preferred doing.

That being said

> [@bobot](#):
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> The NFL will win. Some group of truckers that might be thinking of making a statement just don’t know who they’re fucking with. The NFL is ruthless and powerful.

The NFL is wealthy, powerful, ruthless, and cares enormously that their big show goes off smoothly. The NFL will win. And despite my disagreeing with the truckers’ cause, I’d kinda root for the truckers.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/23 "2022-02-13T14:53:27Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> If I’m not mistaken, most people who go to a Super Bowl are rich enough that 7 grand ain’t a thing.
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> Sure, every now and then there is someone foolish enough to mortgage away his financial future for those sweet sweet SB tickets, but they are few.

Googling, there is a lottery among season ticket holders and the winners get to buy Super Bowl tickets at face value (apparently in the hundreds or low thousands of dollars). I can well imagine, for example, that a lifetime Cincinnati Bengals fan who is lucky enough to win the lottery might choose to fly to Los Angeles to be there in person. So the total cost might be three or four thousand. So not a mortgage-the-farm amount for many people (and certainly those who can afford to buy season tickets annually are not the poorest of fans).

Heck, I’m not a football fan at all but I would not mind being there just for the event and the spectacle.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/24 "2022-02-13T14:59:25Z")

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I know several non-“elites” who go to the Superbowl as their big vacation. It represents saving up over many years.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/25 "2022-02-13T15:01:02Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> The irony is these truckers are doing much more harm to the cause of freedom than their selfish protests helps anything.

These are the same people who were cheering for the police in Portland in 2020 and everywhere else. They just assume the police would never treat _them_ the same way. They are extremely incorrect. I can only hope someone captures them on video yelling “But we’re white!” just before the rubber bullets come flying.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/26 "2022-02-13T15:03:23Z")

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Charge 'em all wirh child endangerment.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/27 "2022-02-13T15:06:10Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> > [@kanicbird](#):
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> > The irony is these truckers are doing much more harm to the cause of freedom than their selfish protests helps anything.
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> These are the same people who were cheering for the police in Portland in 2020 and everywhere else. They just assume the police would never treat _them_ the same way. They are extremely incorrect. I can only hope someone captures them on video yelling “But we’re white!” just before the rubber bullets come flying.

Though to be honest, the police do seem to be treating them with kid gloves. How long ago did the truckers arrive in Ottawa?

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/28 "2022-02-13T15:14:14Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> MAGAs protesting in Inglewood? How’d that work out for the Nazis in Skokie?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZTT1qUswYL0/maxresdefault.jpg "The Blues Brothers (1980) - Nazis Take a Dive Scene (3/9) | Movieclips") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTT1qUswYL0)

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/29 "2022-02-13T15:14:56Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> They just assume the police would never treat _them_ the same way. They are extremely incorrect. I can only hope someone captures them on video yelling “But we’re white!” just before the rubber bullets come flying.

You are extremely incorrect. The politicians are afraid to sic the police on these nutters because a lot of the police ARE nutters.

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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/30 "2022-02-13T16:19:26Z")

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Seems like the most effective Trucker strategy for Superbowl would be to lay low until after half-time then block the exits. This could even be done at a distance from the stadium by blocking key intersections and free way on ramps.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/31 "2022-02-13T17:13:12Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> The politicians are afraid to sic the police on these nutters because a lot of the police ARE nutters.

Sadly, this is true. I don’t expect any rubber bullets to be fired.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/32 "2022-02-13T17:25:01Z")

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As you might expect, Beau of the Fifth column covered this.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Rt6tSppsO_A/maxresdefault.jpg "Let's talk about the Superbowl and trucks....") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt6tSppsO_A)

In short, this is is an NSSE, or National Special Security Event. It won’t be local cops running the show. The security will not want to let trucks with unknown contents getting close to this large number of people. And the people with the money aren’t going to let them interrupt their huge moneymaking event.

Remember, even at the Capitol, they were willing to shoot to kill if they got in before they got all the people were evacuated.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/33 "2022-02-13T18:32:46Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> You are extremely incorrect. The politicians are afraid to sic the police on these nutters because a lot of the police ARE nutters.

This is exactly the problem. And is what lead to the incredibly problematic “defund the police” slogan. Its a problem that well meaning people don’t know how to, or for various reasons, can’t articulate in a politically advantageous way.

“Reform the police” is more accurate, (a well functioning police force is absolutely necessary for a large enough community to accommodate it), but that requires a level nuance that doesn’t fit on a bumpersticker.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/34 "2022-02-13T19:56:41Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> So Wealthy Elites vs. Y’all Qaeda.
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> I’m having a hard time knowing which side to root for.

At this point, we at least know exactly how Wealthy Elites plan to screw up our lives. I’m not willing to roll the dice on whatever fuckery Y’all Qaeda has in mind.

But I wouldn’t shed any tears over a bit of attrition happening to both their ranks.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/35 "2022-02-13T21:26:50Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> > You are extremely incorrect. The politicians are afraid to sic the police on these nutters because a lot of the police ARE nutters.
> 
> This is exactly the problem. And is what lead to the incredibly problematic “defund the police” slogan. Its a problem that well meaning people don’t know how to, or for various reasons, can’t articulate in a politically advantageous way.
> 
> “Reform the police” is more accurate, (a well functioning police force is absolutely necessary for a large enough community to accommodate it), but that requires a level nuance that doesn’t fit on a bumpersticker.

I think the slogan should’ve simply been “Fix the Police”. It’s a slogan, not a policy paper. Like all good slogans, its meaning is broad and flexible…which increases the appeal. As an added bonus, it would start to sound like “Fuck the Police” if you got a crowd chanting it.

Now, what I came here to post. Does anyone else think that it’s _interesting_ that these protests started up at around the time the mask and vaccine mandates are starting to go away on their own as the pandemic fades? It seems to me that these people are looking for an easy win, and they be taking credit as jurisdictions continue to relax and drop their mandates.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/36 "2022-02-13T22:55:02Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Now, what I came here to post. Does anyone else think that it’s _interesting_ that these protests started up at around the time the mask and vaccine mandates are starting to go away on their own as the pandemic fades? It seems to me that these people are looking for an easy win, and they be taking credit as jurisdictions continue to relax and drop their mandates.

Oh, absolutely that’s behind the timing. The rank and file are deluded and lied to, but the people running this show, or egging it on, are not stupid.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/37 "2022-02-13T23:54:53Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> This is exactly the problem. And is what lead to the incredibly problematic “defund the police” slogan.

“And is what LED to the incredibly, _etc._”

That is all.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/38 "2022-02-13T23:59:32Z")

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Seriously? Really?

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/39 "2022-02-13T23:59:56Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> “And is what LED to the incredibly, _etc._ ”

What do Light Emitting Diodes have to do with it? 😉

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truckers-vs-superbowl-fans-who-wins/959386/40 "2022-02-14T00:00:36Z")

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Something about douchebags.

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