# TRUE BLOOD 3.08: Night On the Sun (with open spoilers)

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**Created:** [August 9, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676 "2010-08-09T04:58:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/81 "2010-08-11T23:26:23Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> > I’m betting Jesus is a witch or a Santeria priest. He showed concern that Lafayette had an altar set up with orishas represented with no offerings. I think it was Shango and Elegba, yeah? Both Yoruba deities. Of course, they may just go with generic “voodoo” stuff.
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> That was an interesting scene as it was clear it was more than just making commentary about a potential hook-ups decor; basically “if you’re going to do this do it right”.
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> Something I’ve wondered about Santeria that I’ll ask here in case anybody may know: Most Catholic churches- I understand at least- have special sinks or otherwise special means of disposal for consecrated wine, and since Catholicism influenced Santeria and Voodoo I’ve wondered if there’s a special way of disposing of the offering placed on an alter. In Catholicism of course the wine is consecrated and represents the blood of Christ which isn’t the case with a shot of whiskey left on an alter, but at the same time this is a serious rite to some and so just taking it off and tossing it would seem a bit disrespectful. Does the practitioner leave it for a time and then drink it themself, or is there any set amount of time you leave out the offerings of alcohol and food before discarding them (assuming of course the god doesn’t come by and drink them)?  
> For that matter, what do Jews do with the glass of wine set for Elijah at Passover? Or Vietnamese and others who perform ancestor worship for the food that is set for the dead relatives?

I seem to recall the priest consuming any leftovers, but it’s been 20 years since I attended a mass, and I was a kid, so I may be mistaken.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/82 "2010-08-11T23:31:14Z")

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I just had to go look this wine thing up.

It seems the wine isn’t really for Elijiah, but is a compromise over the dilemma of whether to drink 4 or 5 glasses of wine during the celebration. The question was deferred to Elijiah, the prophet, to answer; as he should be in Heaven before the rest of the folks, he’ll be there to answer the question for sure.

Until then, that extra cup covers the bases, but is not intended for Elijiah at all, and is therefore not sacred.

Why waste a nip? Put it back in the bottle if nobody wants to drink it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/83 "2010-08-12T00:07:41Z")

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Wasn’t there a Saturday Night Live sketch once about Elijah the Prophet actually showing up at a family Sedar, having a seat and proceeding to kvetch and complain about everything?

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**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/84 "2010-08-12T00:34:45Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Wasn’t there a Saturday Night Live sketch once about Elijah the Prophet actually showing up at a family Sedar, having a seat and proceeding to kvetch and complain about everything?

I hope so. And I hope someone with strong googlefoo links it for me.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/85 "2010-08-12T00:39:23Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Wasn’t there a Saturday Night Live sketch once about Elijah the Prophet actually showing up at a family Sedar, having a seat and proceeding to kvetch and complain about everything?

Yep. I can’t find a vid for the skit, but it’s called “A Visit From Elijah The Prophet.”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/86 "2010-08-12T00:47:32Z")

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There was also a dream sequence on an episode of _Northern Exposure_ in which Joel (Jewish NYC doctor in the Alaskan outback for those not familiar with the show) is being led around by a guy who seems to be a middle aged rabbi (conservative suit/tie, kipa, urbane) and doesn’t realize who he is until they go to a seder and the ‘rabbi’ drinks from Elijah’s glass.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/87 "2010-08-12T00:59:19Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> There was also a dream sequence on an episode of _Northern Exposure_ in which Joel (Jewish NYC doctor in the Alaskan outback for those not familiar with the show) is being led around by a guy who seems to be a middle aged rabbi (conservative suit/tie, kipa, urbane) and doesn’t realize who he is until they go to a seder and the ‘rabbi’ drinks from Elijah’s glass.

Awesome! Now I will know what the heck is going on when I watch that, as I don’t remember that episode the first time around.  
Back to the vamp-wolf drama: Am I the only one with rolling eyes and raspberrying tongue at the whole Alcide/Sookie thing? Please tell me it wasn’t that…uf-dah…in the books. It’s just so…juvenile and obvious, something the show has been fairly good at avoiding up until that point. \>.\<

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/88 "2010-08-12T02:31:21Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> Back to the vamp-wolf drama: Am I the only one with rolling eyes and raspberrying tongue at the whole Alcide/Sookie thing? Please tell me it wasn’t that…uf-dah…in the books. It’s just so…juvenile and obvious, something the show has been fairly good at avoiding up until that point. \>.\<

I think she’s an idiot for not dumping Bill for Alcide. He’s not as rich as Bill but Sookie’s not motivated by money anyway, but he beats him hands down in every other way: he’s better looking, nice guy (Bill can be extremely selfish), ages at the same rate she does (can you imagine the stress on a marriage of being a woman going through menopause when your husband of twenty-five years still looks like he did the day you married? Or of having the usual health problems of being in your 60s while once again your spouse is still 30, and will be 30 when you’re 85, and will be 30 fifty years after you died of old age?), he can give her children if she wants them, can walk outside in daylight which can often be convenient in a relationship, and is generally a lot more human than supe except for when he wants to be.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/89 "2010-08-12T02:50:45Z")

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I’m a guy but IMO it’s a a matter of temperature. Bill is an ice-block, meaning he’s the worst cuddle-partner _ever_. Alcide runs hot. This is a no-brainer, right?

Being able to read Aclide’s thoughts is a major downer, though. That is definite points for Bill.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/90 "2010-08-12T03:01:11Z")

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Supposedly, that’s one of things that majorly attracts her to Bill. She can’t hear his thoughts, and most every other guy she listens in on is thinking about banging her. Bill is too, but at least she can’t hear it.

That’s actually prtty perceptive on the part of Charlaine Harris, if women could hear everything that guys are thinking most of the time they’d be pretty disgusted with all of us.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/91 "2010-08-12T04:17:08Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Supposedly, that’s one of things that majorly attracts her to Bill. She can’t hear his thoughts, and most every other guy she listens in on is thinking about banging her. Bill is too, but at least she can’t hear it.
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> That’s actually prtty perceptive on the part of Charlaine Harris, if women could hear everything that guys are thinking most of the time they’d be pretty disgusted with all of us.

I loved the part of this week’s episode in which Jason thinks to himself “Stop thinking, shit, stop thinking, she can hear it!”

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/92 "2010-08-12T04:18:37Z")

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I’ve been wondering - can shifters turn into wolves? If so, then aren’t they werewolves-plus?

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/93 "2010-08-12T04:22:18Z")

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> [@Isosleepy](#):
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> I’ve been wondering - can shifters turn into wolves? If so, then aren’t they werewolves-plus?

I think the shifters turn into normal animals, but werewolves turn into stronger and faster than natural wolves.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/94 "2010-08-12T04:27:27Z")

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I’m still a little confused exactly how a werewolf gets made. Was Alcide’s ex always a werewolf, and she just only showed it for about 1.5 seconds as she loped off after the fight with Sookie? Or did I miss something…

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/95 "2010-08-12T04:32:57Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> I’m still a little confused exactly how a werewolf gets made. Was Alcide’s ex always a werewolf, and she just only showed it for about 1.5 seconds as she loped off after the fight with Sookie? Or did I miss something…

There weren’t any werewolves made, the redhead had been a redhead for the entire series.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-3-08-night-on-the-sun-with-open-spoilers/549676/96 "2010-08-12T05:53:36Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> I’m still a little confused exactly how a werewolf gets made. Was Alcide’s ex always a werewolf, and she just only showed it for about 1.5 seconds as she loped off after the fight with Sookie? Or did I miss something…

True werewolves are born that way via having weres as parents. I thought she was supposed to be a fox, but whatever, werefoxes would be the same anyway.

**Isosleepy** , werewolves are kind of considered the assholes of the were/shifter community, so I doubt many shifters would _want_ to shift into a wolf. Besides, if a werewolf found out about it, they’d probably beat up or even kill the shifter considering they through a fit if anyone calls any other sort of were-animal just “a were.” And didn’t Sam get real touchy many episodes ago when Sookie asked him if _he_ was a werewolf?

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