# True Blood 6/20/2010 - Beautifully Broken -- OPEN SPOILERS **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 21, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997 "2010-06-21T16:09:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/21 "2010-06-22T01:16:16Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That’s why I described the room as one intended for imprisoning vampires. But why would you put all of that antique furniture in a room meant as a jail cell? If the vampire who was stuck there got pissed at the idea, wouldn’t he destroy the furniture? Because it was intended as “unwilling” guest quarters - not prisoner guest quarters, and apparently even when in company of folks you don’t like, there is some level of decorum - unless your name is Lorena and you’re an old flame of Bill’s (or a new one). ---
**Author:** ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/22 "2010-06-22T02:08:11Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Re moving the body – I got it from the TWOP recap. I don’t know how accurate the recaps are though. I assume they see what we see, and I didn’t see the body being moved (but I missed parts of the ep). I got called away a bit, also, so I didn’t see the body being moved. I was theorizing that this guy was going to be a messed-up vampire in lieu of Bubba (from the books). In the books, Bubba was a very recognizable person who had been turned improperly, leaving him impaired. I was thinking that Jessica’s draining the guy and then giving him her blood could have left him messed up — particularly since she wasn’t around when he woke up. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/23 "2010-06-22T03:09:26Z")
**YWalker** , a Bubba vamp? That’d be awesome! Maybe that’s what happened. Was Lafayette’s mom masturbating? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/24 "2010-06-22T03:29:06Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Was Lafayette’s mom masturbating? I think that just made #2 on the list of things I don’t ever want an answer to. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/25 "2010-06-22T04:25:16Z")
What’s #1? ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/26 "2010-06-22T04:27:04Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Re moving the body – I got it from the TWOP recap. I don’t know how accurate the recaps are though. I assume they see what we see, and I didn’t see the body being moved (but I missed parts of the ep). I’m pretty sure they didn’t show the body being removed. The person who did the write up, probably put two and two together, WRT the vampire being in Bill’s home, and the body suddenly vanishing. > [@](#): > > I don’t understand why the King thinks Bill can influence the Queen to marry him. What’s up with that? The King said something about Bill being sent to live in Bon Temps by the queen, possibly to befriend Sookie (?), so maybe he and the Queen are a lot closer than we’ve seen thus far. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/27 "2010-06-22T09:00:22Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I mean, there’s a part of the episode where one character seriously talks to another about Nazi werewolves. Kinda… over the top there. I found it quite amusing how _gleeful_ Jessica got at the notion. [quote=“AuntiePam, post:1, topic:543997”] Was he just being helpful or did he need to air out the place before going through Bill’s stuff? [QUOTE] Maybe he’ll use it to extort Jessica. > [@](#): > > I don’t understand why the King thinks Bill can influence the Queen to marry him. What’s up with that? Well he found detailed files on Sookie from her early childhood as well as a family tree, so maybe he was placed there by the Queen in order to investigate Sookie. > [@](#): > > Oh, and Sam with his new family – did his brother lure him into the road? Looked like it. Dick move. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That’s why I described the room as one intended for imprisoning vampires. But why would you put all of that antique furniture in a room meant as a jail cell? If the vampire who was stuck there got pissed at the idea, wouldn’t he destroy the furniture? It’s more of a low security prison than a strict jail cell. Bill is his guest and he wants him to feel comfortable, but he doesn’t want him to get any ideas about leaving before he wants him to. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Maybe I missed something, but I don’t see how they know that was Franklin who went through Bill’s files and removed the body. He was the only one we saw in the house. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/28 "2010-06-22T11:11:50Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > It helps my enjoyment of the show to watch it as a soap, as suggested in last week’s thread. But does anyone else think there are too many story lines? Everybody’s got something going on. If you think there are too many storylines going on, you aren’t successfully watching it like a soap yet. There **are** more than in the book, though. [spoiler]Plotlines from the third book: - Bill’s kidnapping, being held captive by a vampire king at his maker’s behest - Eric helping Sookie because he wants her - Sam’s discontent about being a loner **but** not finding his family - he’s in touch with them in the books - Tara meeting a vampire she’s attracted to - Werewolves are introduced Not from this book: - Anything to do with Hotshot. That comes later in the books - The implication that there are good vs bad werewolves. That’s from later books. - The on-going hints that Sookie is different aren’t introduced for another book/short stories set between books 4 & 5 Not From any book: - Andy and Jason’s current storyline, unless they bring over Jason getting to know the people in Hotshot sooner. Eggs didn’t get shot in the book. - Tara’s suicide attempt –\> Layfette helping her (he’s not a character past book 1) - Jessica is not a book character, so obviously the Hoyt-Jessica plot doesn’t exist either - The Terry-Arlene plot. She has a different, much worse boyfriend in the book beginning around then or not much later[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/29 "2010-06-22T12:46:06Z")
Potential book spoiler, but I have to say that I’m really glad that the TV show has left out the stupid plotline where Bill invents that vampire database and everybody wants it and blah blah blah. Talk about dragging the narrative to a halt. I am loving this season so far. I was really burned out on Marianne last season, and this one is looking to be a lot more interesting so far. I’m glad that Jason and Sookie are finally cleaning up Gran’s house, too. (By the way, am I the only one who has noticed that Jason and Sookie seem to have about 1000x more chemistry with each other than Sookie and Beeeeeel do? It’s kind of ooging me out, to be honest.) ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/30 "2010-06-22T13:46:06Z")
Why are Jason and Andy lying about who shot Eggs? Unless I’m forgetting something, Jason shot him because he thought Eggs was attacking Andy. Eggs was freaked out and brandishing a knife. So why don’t they just say so? ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/31 "2010-06-22T14:15:44Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I don’t understand why the King thinks Bill can influence the Queen to marry him. What’s up with that? I was thinking that the King had an idea about just what the Queen was doing - selling V - and assumed that Bill would tell him something to blackmail her into marrying him in exchange for the sheriff position. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/32 "2010-06-22T15:45:49Z")
> [@RainGrowsBrite](#): > > Also Sookie’s impersonation of Bill was hilarious! > > Sookie: “Every sound I hear, every time the phone rings or I see a shadow in the corner of my eye, I think it’s Bill. I keep expecting him to come through the door and say [in Bill’s accent] Sookie.” My wife and I had a good chuckle at that; since starting to watch the show, we’ve been jokingly saying “Sookie” to each other in just that voice. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/33 "2010-06-22T16:20:09Z")
> [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](#): > > Why are Jason and Andy lying about who shot Eggs? Unless I’m forgetting something, Jason shot him because he thought Eggs was attacking Andy. Eggs was freaked out and brandishing a knife. So why don’t they just say so? Yeah, that doesn’t make sense to me either. Even though Andy’s enjoying the attention, that wasn’t his plan. I guess it gives the characters an excuse to hang out together. Otherwise Jason wouldn’t have been with Andy when they raided the meth place and he wouldn’t have gotten a glimpse of that girl. Nobody’s gonna care who shot Eggs (except Tara). ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/34 "2010-06-22T21:34:53Z")
> [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](#): > > Why are Jason and Andy lying about who shot Eggs? Unless I’m forgetting something, Jason shot him because he thought Eggs was attacking Andy. Eggs was freaked out and brandishing a knife. So why don’t they just say so? It’s a lot easier for a cop to shot someone in self-defense than it is to prove that a non-cop was shoting someone to defend a third party. Andy implied that already when he said that Jason could go to jail for “murder” if the truth came out. ---
**Author:** ![Lightsaber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Lightsaber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightsaber)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997/35 "2010-06-22T23:38:22Z")
Thinking back, perhaps there were some hints that the Queen actually did send Bill to spy on Sookie, get close to her, or for some other reason. Even going back to the first episode: Bill just happens to be overpowered and drained by two humans. Sookie shows up and saves him. From what we know about the True Blood vampires now, it seems unlikely that Bill would be dumb enough to trust two sleazy humans, much less be overpowered by them. The next night, Bill just happens to show up in time to save Sookie by feeding her his blood? Ninety seconds earlier and he could have prevented the beating in the first place. Then in season two, Bill just manages to spontaneously get an audience with the Queen. As far as we know, he didn’t call ahead or send any signal. He just showed up and walked right in. And then the Queen just happens to have Sookie’s cousin as a playmate? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-20-2010-beautifully-broken-open-spoilers/543997.md?page=1)