# True Blood 6/21: "Keep This Party Going" (OPEN SPOILERS)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 22, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562 "2009-06-22T06:49:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![maniondl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@maniondl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maniondl)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/41 "2009-06-25T16:13:20Z")

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In the books Sookie and Eric develop a strong blood bond, stronger than Sookie and Bill’s, because they’ve exchanged blood more often, starting with Eric tricking her into helping he remove a bullet with her mouth

Ah yes, the old “I’ve been bitten by a snake and you need to suck the venom out” trick.

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/42 "2009-06-25T18:01:27Z")

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> [@Xan](#):
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> I’m assuming Bill knew where Jessica was because he is the one that sired her, so he has a bond with her. Otherwise it doesn’t make any sense.

When Bill told her to step away from her father, it seemed like she was compelled to, rather than stepping away of her own volition. Is she forced to obey Bill because he created her?

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/43 "2009-06-25T19:29:10Z")

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> [@Xan](#):
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> When she drank Bill’s blood in the first couple of episodes. He mentioned that they are now bonded and he’ll always be able to find her.

It seems like Sookie is getting her blood drunk and drinking vampire blood an awful lot. How much of that has to happen before you become a vamp yourself?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/44 "2009-06-25T19:31:43Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> It seems like Sookie is getting her blood drunk and drinking vampire blood an awful lot. How much of that has to happen before you become a vamp yourself?

Or become a V addict like her brother.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/45 "2009-06-25T19:40:52Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Or become a V addict like her brother.

Nah, her brother is a good ol’ Christian boy. 🙂

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/46 "2009-06-25T19:48:39Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> It seems like Sookie is getting her blood drunk and drinking vampire blood an awful lot. How much of that has to happen before you become a vamp yourself?

It was explained in an earlier thread that one’s blood has to be drained in a very specific way in order to become a vampire.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/47 "2009-06-29T03:40:05Z")

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I really didn’t understand the scene between Mary Ann and Sam. What is it exactly that she does to people? I thought Sam was a shape-shifter to begin with, and often changed to a dog to watch after Sookie.

Maenads, in Greek mythology, were human female devotees of Bacchus, who became fearsomely unreasonable–and as strong as Hercules–and therefore dangerously unpredictable when in the midst of their frenzy. One story has them murdering Oddyseus by pelting him with large boulders, and another one has one of them tearing a king (of Sparta?) limb from limb, after shaking him out of a large conifer by pushing against its great trunk with their dainty palms and causing the tree to oscillate. But AFAIK their threat lies in physical violence, and not in spells or turning people into things.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/48 "2009-06-29T04:47:42Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> It was explained in an earlier thread that one’s blood has to be drained in a very specific way in order to become a vampire.

I’m reading the first book and that question is answered when Sookie asks Bill whether there are “other ways” to get turned.

Other vampires have told me humans they habitually bite, day after day, can become vampires quite unexpectedly. But that requires consecutive, deep, feedings.

Oh it’s on page 53 of Dead Until Dark.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/49 "2009-06-29T06:11:27Z")

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> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> I really didn’t understand the scene between Mary Ann and Sam. What is it exactly that she does to people? I thought Sam was a shape-shifter to begin with, and often changed to a dog to watch after Sookie.
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> Maenads, in Greek mythology, were human female devotees of Bacchus, who became fearsomely unreasonable–and as strong as Hercules–and therefore dangerously unpredictable when in the midst of their frenzy. One story has them murdering Oddyseus by pelting him with large boulders, and another one has one of them tearing a king (of Sparta?) limb from limb, after shaking him out of a large conifer by pushing against its great trunk with their dainty palms and causing the tree to oscillate. But AFAIK their threat lies in physical violence, and not in spells or turning people into things.

Mary Anne’s parties make me think of Bacchanals too. The Maenads also had sex with Pan (all of them…remember Mary Anne’s painting and her comment that Pan’s human lover “could be any of us”).  
One more thing – the Maenads were devotees of Dionysus (Roman: Bacchus), and one of Dionysus’ primary symbols was a bull.

Changing men into pigs was Circe, though, so I’m not sure what to do with that.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/50 "2009-06-29T21:43:05Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Changing men into pigs was Circe, though, so I’m not sure what to do with that.

And, yeah, what about the pig? Was the pig on

(spoiler for 6/28 follows because I assume the disclaimer applies only to last week’s ep)

last night’s episode, that the detective found momentarily in a shed, actually a person? But then when he looked again, the shed was empty and not a naked person as you would expect to see after a shapeshifting spell wears off.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/51 "2009-07-02T02:35:26Z")

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> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> And, yeah, what about the pig? Was the pig on
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> (spoiler for 6/28 follows because I assume the disclaimer applies only to last week’s ep)
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> last night’s episode, that the detective found momentarily in a shed, actually a person? But then when he looked again, the shed was empty and not a naked person as you would expect to see after a shapeshifting spell wears off.

No thread for this week? Anyway… if we go by the book, the answer to your spoilered question is no. I don’t know where it went, but it is just what it looked like.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/52 "2009-07-02T03:14:44Z")

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The thread for this week’s episode is [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=522806).

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-6-21-keep-this-party-going-open-spoilers/500562/53 "2009-07-02T11:52:29Z")

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> [@Floppy\_Joe](#):
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> I worked as background. Background people are barely considered human. I consider myself lucky just to have been fed, but only after the cast & crew have finished demolishing the spread. We have very strict orders _ **NOT** _ to interact with anyone on the set, save the Assistant Director (AD) who has been assigned to be our “handler”. To violate this rule is risking being fired from the production with no pay, such as it is.
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> Nice or nasty? Hard to say when you don’t merit their notice.
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> Now, don’t get the idea that I’m being down on the way we’re treated. That’s just the rules of the game, and my eyes were already wide open when I went in. Done this stuff enough already. And I’m certainly not star-struck. In general, actors (to which I’m aspiring to be) are a pretty ignorant lot as it is.

You should open an “Ask the…” thread in GQ.  
I bet it could be very interesting.

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