# True Blood 8/15 Everything is Broken

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 16, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381 "2010-08-16T02:26:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/81 "2010-08-18T19:25:15Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> **salinqmind** , how was that not a big fat spoiler?

The line they quote is just a throwaway line in the book. There is no detailing of an Iowa Elf war.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/82 "2010-08-18T19:32:41Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> > [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> > **salinqmind** , how was that not a big fat spoiler?
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> The line they quote is just a throwaway line in the book. There is no detailing of an Iowa Elf war.

Shit, I was hoping that would be the main plot for S4.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/83 "2010-08-18T19:50:40Z")

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Only if they’re totally bad-ass Tolkien style Elves! Preferably of the quasi-Romulan type from the Jackson films.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/84 "2010-08-18T20:11:07Z")

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> [@CrazyCatLady](#):
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> > [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> > **salinqmind** , how was that not a big fat spoiler?
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> It’s a spoiler for the books, yes, but they’ve changed things around enough in the show that I’m not real sure that’s quite where they’re going with the show. And the comment itself is a total throw-away line. But if it bothers you, report the post and get it boxed.

Actually, I’m not too bothered by spoilers myself – however, I didn’t really mean for it to be a spoiler regarding some elf war or other plot point, but rather regarding Sookie’s nature. I mean, I wasn’t spoiled before, but after reading that, it seemed clear to me that she’s some sort of elf, fairy or the like; so I went back and read another spoiler confirming my impression. Personally, I’m just glad she’s not an angel or something, but to my knowledge, fairies and the like haven’t even been introduced in the TV series, right?

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/85 "2010-08-18T20:37:40Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> Downthread, I see someone said they like most of the changes. I don’t mind either, although I’m 100% with the other poster about Sookie/Bill/Eric plotline. I find Bill completely repulsive and Eric hotter than 1,000 suns, so I’m totally on Team Eric.
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> I’m not shitting on TB, just wondering where they’ll go from here. That’s definitely enough to keep me watching.

Here is my suspicion, with fairly significant book spoilers for Club Dead (roughly this season’s story) and Dead to the World, the following book. It’s just speculation regarding what the series will do, but as far as the Bill/Sookie situation at season’s end, it is highly probable, IMHO:Sookie will find out that Bill sought her out originally on orders from the queen, that the inception of their relationship was total manipulation on his part. That will break them up. (And Sookie will cry and whine and ignore the much graver problems of her friends like a self-centered bitch.) After this season’s plot is resolved, the teaser for next season will be her finding a terrified, amnesiac, naked Eric running down her road.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/86 "2010-08-18T21:40:23Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Franklin had his head removed too but in a bunch of pieces. Does the head have to come off in one fell swoop? Does the head have to be far enough away from the body to die? If Tara had scooped up Franklin’s head pieces and thrown them out in the hall, would he have died then?

The head was more… smooshed. I’m guessing the spine has to be separated. In any case, whatever the mechanics of vampire killing involve or don’t involve, we now know - if the vampire hasn’t exploded into a bloody goo puddle, that means it’s not dead yet…

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/87 "2010-08-19T11:49:50Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> I hate, hate hate the recent \<last five years or so\> turn of shows toward having very short seasons. Cliffhangers suck to begin with; now we have two or three times as many, and the fact that I know this is all just winding up to leave everyone hanging is honestly taking away a lot of my enjoyment.

I disagree that there has been any change. True Blood is an HBO show. HBO shows have had the same length season as True Blood going back forever. Sopranos, Deadwood, Rome, Larry Sanders, Dream On, etc..

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**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/88 "2010-08-19T17:06:15Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> > [@Taomist](#):
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> > I hate, hate hate the recent \<last five years or so\> turn of shows toward having very short seasons. Cliffhangers suck to begin with; now we have two or three times as many, and the fact that I know this is all just winding up to leave everyone hanging is honestly taking away a lot of my enjoyment.
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> I disagree that there has been any change. True Blood is an HBO show. HBO shows have had the same length season as True Blood going back forever. Sopranos, Deadwood, Rome, Larry Sanders, Dream On, etc..

I think Taomist is speaking of shows in general. With more cable shows airing and a few more mid-season shows popping up, there is more exposure to the 13-episode seasons. I actually like the shorter seasons. They keep shows stories tighter, having fewer filler episodes than the 22-to-26 episodes seasons of many network shows.

As for “cliffhangers” sucking, it’s a natural progression of the larger number of serialized shows that are being produced. Gotta have that hook to keep viewers watching season-to-season!

Someone earlier mentioned that True Blood was actually good about not ending seasons in cliffhangers, at least not for the current season arcs. As I remember it, season 1 resolved the fangbanger murder spree with Rene’s death at Sookie’s hands, then left us with the dead body in Andy’s car to lead to season 2. Season 2’s Maryanne arc finished with Sam killing her, then we see Bill disappearing from the restaurant after he proposed to Sookie. This nice send-off is good, especially if say you had enough of the show. You could finish the season and its current arc, then be done with the show without getting too invested in the small cliffhanger that starts the new story for next season.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/89 "2010-08-19T17:17:16Z")

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Yeah, but it makes no sense to complain about True Blood being an example of a recent trend. HBO series have always and forever had short seasons.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-15-everything-is-broken/550381/90 "2010-08-19T17:31:38Z")

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> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
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> > [@Dogzilla](#):
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> > I’m not shitting on TB, just wondering where they’ll go from here. That’s definitely enough to keep me watching.
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> Here is my suspicion, with fairly significant book spoilers for Club Dead (roughly this season’s story) and Dead to the World, the following book. It’s just speculation regarding what the series will do, but as far as the Bill/Sookie situation at season’s end, it is highly probable, IMHO:Sookie will find out that Bill sought her out originally on orders from the queen, that the inception of their relationship was total manipulation on his part. That will break them up. (And Sookie will cry and whine and ignore the much graver problems of her friends like a self-centered bitch.) After this season’s plot is resolved, the teaser for next season will be her finding a terrified, amnesiac, naked Eric running down her road.

The second half of which is exactly what I predicted in March in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=556202) encouraging people to read book three before the season began 😃

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