# TRUE BLOOD 8/16/09 Open Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 17, 2009, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700 "2009-08-17T05:24:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/61 "2009-08-19T22:12:44Z")
For those who enjoyed Sookie’s dream: [Oh](http://truebloodwiki.hbo.com/photo/7127975/Eric+%26+Sookie+as+%27August+Couple%27!!!)[my](http://truebloodwiki.hbo.com/photo/6624092/Mr.January+-+Eric+for+Fangtasia+calendar!). ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/62 "2009-08-19T22:40:04Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > For those who enjoyed Sookie’s dream: > [Oh](http://truebloodwiki.hbo.com/photo/7127975/Eric+%26+Sookie+as+%27August+Couple%27!!!)[my](http://truebloodwiki.hbo.com/photo/6624092/Mr.January+-+Eric+for+Fangtasia+calendar!). All I want for Christmas is… ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/63 "2009-08-20T00:18:37Z")
I haven’t found any good pics of Alexander’s brothers. Are they hot also? (One is 14 but the others are in their 20s; all have acting credits but mostly in Swedish projects.) Also, does anybody know wheter the language Eric sometimes speaks is modern Swedish or an archaic (Viking era) Scandinavian dialect? ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/64 "2009-08-20T09:27:33Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Also, does anybody know wheter the language Eric sometimes speaks is modern Swedish or an archaic (Viking era) Scandinavian dialect? The latter. That’s what Bill told Sookie the first time he took her to Fangtasia in season one. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/65 "2009-08-20T10:56:57Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Well, that’s true, but even she was two or three at the time. She? I was talking about the were-vamp. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/66 "2009-08-20T11:31:58Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > She? I was talking about the were-vamp. I’m pretty sure **elfkin** was talking about the vamp who made the one mentioned in your spoiler. [spoiler]Sookie’s cousin Hadley had been a vamp for at least a few years by the time she made Jake–she had to have been the Queen’s lover for over a year to have set Bill’s return to Bon Temps in motion, and I rather doubt she could have gotten with Sophie-Ann immediately after being turned. So she was a fairly new vampire, but not nearly so new as Jessica. As for Jake, as far as I’ve read he’s not turned anyone. Of course, I’ve only read up to book 7, but I thought he died in the whole hotel explosion thing. Perhaps I’m mis-remembering.[/spoiler] I doubt they’ve really thought about how old a vampire has to be before turning someone. In the world of the books, it may be an issue even the vampires don’t really know about because it just hasn’t come up yet. Before the invention of synthetic blood, a really new vamp almost certainly couldn’t turn anyone because they didn’t yet have enough control to drain someone to being almost dead without actually killing them. Harris talks about new vampires being a lot hungrier and needing a lot more blood than older vamps, and iirc Bill says something about “after I learned not to kill.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/67 "2009-08-20T18:14:20Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Too bad he was being interviewed by a complete idiot. “What’s it like playing a vampire?” If I’m not mistaken, that was Lisa Rinna, who’s been almost fatally over-glamoured. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/68 "2009-08-20T20:51:25Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Harris talks about new vampires being a lot hungrier and needing a lot more blood than older vamps, and iirc Bill says something about “after I learned not to kill.” Bill also said something about most vamps not surviving their first year. I thought it was funny in last week’s flashbacks to the 1920s that the song Bill was playing at the piano was “Hard Hearted Hannah/the _Vamp_ of Savannah G-A”. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/69 "2009-08-20T21:25:09Z")
As I watch True Blood, I always think about wierd thing, if Vamps were a known part of society. For example, Would Vampires be allowed in the Olympics? Would businesses have to have darkness hours to accomodate Vampires due to the American for Disabilities Act? Would Vampire be a protected class? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/70 "2009-08-20T21:38:05Z")
Imagine vampires as guest lecturers in history classes. (Remember that in the first season Sookie’s grandmother invited Bill to speak at her Civil War club.) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/71 "2009-08-20T22:08:20Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Imagine vampires as guest lecturers in history classes. (Remember that in the first season Sookie’s grandmother invited Bill to speak at her Civil War club.) I’ve thought about that too. What a boon they would be to historians and linguists. I imagine that medical researchers could learn a lot from them too. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/72 "2009-08-20T22:29:14Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > As I watch True Blood, I always think about wierd thing, if Vamps were a known part of society. > > For example, > > Would Vampires be allowed in the Olympics? > Would businesses have to have darkness hours to accomodate Vampires due to the American for Disabilities Act? > Would Vampire be a protected class? If a vampire committed a felony would it be unethical to sentence them to life imprisonment? And how would you go about confining them to begin with? ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/73 "2009-08-21T00:40:25Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > If a vampire committed a felony would it be unethical to sentence them to life imprisonment? And how would you go about confining them to begin with? The vamps have their own justice system and they want to work with the humans, so both can co-exist. They would have to coordinate with the human police, I think, and arrest/confine the felonious vampire to await trial. And they’d have to lock 'em up in a silver cage! (For killing a fellow vampire, Bill was sentenced to 5 years locked in a silver bound coffin, which would have driven him mad. And starved. But not quite dead.) ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/74 "2009-08-21T04:55:33Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > For those who enjoyed Sookie’s dream: > [Oh](http://truebloodwiki.hbo.com/photo/7127975/Eric+%26+Sookie+as+%27August+Couple%27!!!)[my](http://truebloodwiki.hbo.com/photo/6624092/Mr.January+-+Eric+for+Fangtasia+calendar!). ☹ These pics were blocked at work, and now that I’m home they’ve been deleted from the web site! No fair! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/75 "2009-08-21T05:26:16Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > If a vampire committed a felony would it be unethical to sentence them to life imprisonment? And how would you go about confining them to begin with? I don’t think anyone actually gets “life imprisonment” - a life sentence typically is a set period of time, like 20 or 30 years. I guess a cage of silver could contain them. Speaking of which - I’m guessing people who owned significant amounts of assets in silver have become very, very rich in this world as the demand for vampire protection skyrockets. ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/76 "2009-08-21T07:02:44Z")
I doubt a very new vampire like Jessica would ever turn someone. Not because she can’t, but because a maker has an obligation to mentor the new vampire and Jessica is still learning how to be a vampire herself. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Hoyt ask Jessica to turn him so they can be together forever, if they’re still together in a few seasons (assuming the show is still on the air). ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/77 "2009-08-21T13:35:53Z")
> [@Rainbowthief](#): > > I doubt a very new vampire like Jessica would ever turn someone. Not because she can’t, but because a maker has an obligation to mentor the new vampire and Jessica is still learning how to be a vampire herself. And Jessica is a very reasonable ex-person who totally thinks her actions through :rolleyes: 🙂 FWIW, I do wonder why the vamps picked her to be turned - could be some form of fun from debasing someone (they thought) was a pure flower, but even so… there must have been some better candidates to turn for shits and giggles. Like, say, turning dear Rev. Newlin. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/78 "2009-08-21T14:11:13Z")
> [@kath94](#): > > ☹ These pics were blocked at work, and now that I’m home they’ve been deleted from the web site! No fair! Aw. I can’t find the one with Sookie and Eric together, but do a Google image search for “eric northman mr. january” and you’ll find the second. Which is the more twitterpating one anyway. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/79 "2009-08-21T15:01:27Z")
> [@LorieSmurf](#): > > Hmm. I suppose I’m the only fan who likes Sookie and Bill together. While reading the books, I was disappointed that they broke up but I’m still holding out hope that they’ll get back together. I’m dreading that part in the show, because it has to be a plot point that can’t be ignored. Blah. I also think Anna Paquin and Stephen Moyer look good together and have great chemistry. Moyer as Bill is hot; Eric is cute but is too "pretty boy"ish for my taste. No, not the only one. I like Bill a lot more than Eric, in both personality and physical appearance. I’m very disappointed that they’ll eventually break up. ☹ This episode and the last one have been far and away the best this season, and I’m getting excited about the show again. I’m glad they’re finally moving the Maryanne plotline forward. The speech she gave Tara and Eggs when they wavered was very revealing and made her character suddenly more interesting. Go Lafayette and Tara’s mom! I hope they don’t fall under Maryanne’s sway. ---
**Author:** ![TheFaerie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TheFaerie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheFaerie)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700/80 "2009-08-21T15:10:22Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It’s weird hearing that voice come out of Jason Stackhouse. I now realize that Ryan Kwanten is an even better actor than I thought. Too bad he was being interviewed by a complete idiot. “What’s it like playing a vampire?” His real voice makes him even sexier in my opinion. And on topic… please finish the Maryann storyline. Please. If it continues into next season I will strongly reconsider my Sunday evening TV time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-16-09-open-spoilers/506700.md?page=5)