# True Blood 8.2 Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 3, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129 "2009-08-03T03:53:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/41 "2009-08-04T20:50:45Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Andy was mentioned upthread - and initially I thought this episode meant he had some sort of supe power as well, but he was sufficiently “black eyed” back at Merlot’s when he did his quiver dance (epilpetic on crack). _Was_ he black eyed in that scene? I remember him dancing, but have to wonder if he was just having a good time (caught up in the moment) and not actually under the spell. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/42 "2009-08-04T20:53:40Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Re Andy – mentioned in a thread from season one, by someone who’s read the books: He has faerie blood. Wrong character. Sookie and Jason have fairie blood. Andy and Terry (and Andy’s yet to be seen sister) are related to Bill, but that doesn’t make them sups. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/43 "2009-08-04T20:54:47Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Wouldn’t that apply to Terry as well? Terry was very much black-eyed and rutting away with Arlene. I would say not immune. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/44 "2009-08-04T21:33:18Z")
I was sure someone said there was something special about Andy. If he’s normal, then we need an explanation for why Maryann’s mojo doesn’t affect him. Is it because he shows up after the party is well under way? That’d be lame. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/45 "2009-08-04T21:36:10Z")
Andy did go under her spell once before. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/46 "2009-08-04T23:39:23Z")
> [@Ruffian](#): > > _Was_ he black eyed in that scene? I remember him dancing, but have to wonder if he was just having a good time (caught up in the moment) and not actually under the spell. I’m not entirely sure at this point if anyone was black eyed in that scene - I think the “black eyed possession” became more pronounced/was revealed later. Having said that, his aversion/comments about his dancing suggests (strongly, to me) that more than just alchohol fueled his getting caught up in it. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/47 "2009-08-05T15:07:01Z")
> [@overlyverbose](#): > > I’ll be very glad when the Maryann plot line is over (please say it’ll be over?). I’m not a fan of how they’ve constructed it and I find it distracting, not interesting. I felt exactly the same way about the maenad plot line in the book as well. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/48 "2009-08-05T15:14:44Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Why are people worried that Maryanne will turn out to be a God? Just a few seconds after Daphne threw out the word “God” she went on to explain that Maryanne isn’t a god but “the closest thing we’ll ever see” here on earth: a [maenad](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maenads). I’m also glad we get to put the “minotaur” meme to rest in these threads. I know the series doesn’t always follow the book, but I was not getting minotaur out of the Mary Ann thing, at all. While I really don’t think that Daphne’s explanation of a maenad was terribly accurate, especially with respect to the ways in which Mary Ann asserts her power, at least we can stop calling her a minotaur. My next comment is in a spoiler box, although I really don’t think it’s a spoiler. I just don’t want to ruin it for anyone who doesn’t care to read the books. The books explain that the maenad, which was an acolyte of Dionysus, feeds off the power of lust and drunkenness. All the parties and orgies are merely a mechanism for her to control the people of Bon Temps. The idea is to have a ritual involving drunken orgy, and that gives Mary Ann the power to send her energy out to all of them which allows her to control them. This sets up the gang to make a sacrifice to Dionysus, which is why Mary Ann wanted to lop off Sam’s head. This is Mary Ann’s purpose: to feed off people’s lusty (lust for drink, drugs, sex, debauchery in general) inclinations to serve the actual diety, Dionysus, who was the God of Partying. Basically. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/49 "2009-08-05T16:24:16Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > I’m also glad we get to put the “minotaur” meme to rest in these threads. I know the series doesn’t always follow the book, but I was not getting minotaur out of the Mary Ann thing, at all. While I really don’t think that Daphne’s explanation of a maenad was terribly accurate, especially with respect to the ways in which Mary Ann asserts her power, at least we can stop calling her a minotaur. Yeah, I see what you’re saying. I guess it would be more accurate to say she becomes a kind of avatar of Dionysus or something? The maenad plot in the books was just beyond stupid (and boring. Except for Eric doing himself up as a gay swinger - that was amusing), so I think the show has improved on it slightly. But it would have been more fun, I think, if they’d drawn on the plot of The Bacchae more, or at least given the audience more information about her identity and motivations up front. ---
**Author:** ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/50 "2009-08-05T17:12:54Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > I felt exactly the same way about the maenad plot line in the book as well. I agree. I wasn’t a fan of it, either. At first, I thought it might be interesting, but it turned out to be a complete non-sequitor. Plus, there seemed to be enough going on in the book to begin with (vampires, murders, shapeshifters) that the introduction of yet another thread of plot was just unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/51 "2009-08-05T17:44:21Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > Yeah, I see what you’re saying. I guess it would be more accurate to say she becomes a kind of avatar of Dionysus or something? Well, yes, when she puts on the Dionysus helmet thingy. I followed the Wiki link upthread and Dionysus’s avatar _was_ a bull, so it seems Mary Ann is representing that in some way with the horn helmet. There’s a band name in there somewhere, I’m just not sure exactly where. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/52 "2009-08-05T18:11:44Z")
> [@overlyverbose](#): > > I agree. I wasn’t a fan of it, either. At first, I thought it might be interesting, but it turned out to be a complete non-sequitor. Depending on how Maryann’s story plays out, there might be some character growth, but more likely regression. If Maryann leaves, Eggs will go with her (assuming he survives), and Tara will be insecure and untrusting again. Sam will be less likely to come out to anyone. If Andy has a hand in Maryann leaving, he might get his job back, and some self-respect. That story line hasn’t accomplished much. We could have used more of the church, more of the outside world adapting to the supernaturals, and we definitely could have used more of Godric and Lafayette. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/53 "2009-08-05T18:23:48Z")
In the books, the vamps + Sookie returned from Dallas just in time to, um, be involved with the resolution of the Maryann storyline. That seemed like a plot device to tie the maenad in to the Sookie/Vamps storyline, so there’s no telling what HBO will do with it. Spoilered because it appears HBO _may_ be heading in sort of the same direction with Eggs & Mary Ann squatting in Sookie’s house. My spoiler was intentionally pretty damn vague. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/54 "2009-08-05T22:21:23Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > If Maryann leaves, Eggs will go with her (assuming he survives) I really couldn’t figure that out when reading book. At first I thought he did survive the climax of the story, then a couple paragraphs later got the sense that he didn’t, and never figured out if he lived or died - so I guess I’ll be as suprised as people who haven’t read the book. It’s one of the reasons book 2 is my least favorite. That said, this season is pretty good because it’s not a faithful adaptation of a week book. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/55 "2009-08-05T22:50:53Z")
Any clue from the books how Bill survived all those years without drinking human blood? Did he drink rat blood, or what? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/56 "2009-08-06T00:02:56Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Any clue from the books how Bill survived all those years without drinking human blood? Did he drink rat blood, or what? I haven’t read the books, but I wondered about that too. Is it a clue that Bill said something about not wanting to shed any more “innocent” blood? Maybe he only fed from evil people. Or maybe he just glamored folks and sucked enough to get by, without killing anyone. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129/57 "2009-08-06T00:14:47Z")
I just read on CNN that Anna Paquin and Stephen Moyer (Bill) are engaged. StG [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-8-2-spoilers/505129.md?page=2)