# True Blood Episode 30: What was the music during closing credits?
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**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [July 26, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010 "2010-07-26T03:34:27Z")
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### Author:  [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/61 "2010-07-29T18:37:25Z")
> [@Frylock](#):
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> > > > Plus, there’s no need to drain every last drop. They Vamps are out in the open, accepted by society, have easily accessible artificial blood, humans volunteering to feed them and the ability to glamor others.
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> > > When the king, Bill, and Bill’s maker fed on the dancer in the limo - was it your impression she survived and they glamored her?
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> > I assumed she did, but I hadn’t really thought about it. I guess there’s really no way they let her live, even if she was glamored, she would still have multiple bite marks for quite some time. So, they probably did kill her since she would have figured it out post-glam.
> > You messed up the quoting again Dinsdale. 🙂
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> Er uh, maybe what I said you were saying wasn’t what you were saying after all.
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> I thought it was pretty clear they simply murdered her, no glamoring or nothin.
These nested quotes are really complicating things. I’m a bit confused now.
Anyway, so they probably did murder her, but can we categorize it as some sort of special circumstance? A Vamp King is making a play for a huge land grab, Bill is trying to gain his trust by distancing himself from the sympathetic human loving reputation he has, and Isabella is just a crazy bitch.
ETA: Also, werewolf slayings shouldn’t count either. They’re acts of hostility and I don’t think the vamps even bother feeding on them. Do they even like were-blood?
ETA: I’m going to try to clear things up a little. When I was watching the show, I didn’t really think much of what happened to the stripper. It just didn’t seem that important, and there were a lot more exciting things going on at the same time. But Dinsdale asked me that question and when I thought back to it, I realized that, yes, she probably was murdered. I can’t think of a way around murdering her after such a brutal feeding.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/62 "2010-07-29T18:44:35Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> When the king, Bill, and Bill’s maker fed on the dancer in the limo - was it your impression she survived and they glamored her?
At the end of that scene, the camera panned to the ground directly below the limo, where it showed a growing pool of blood. So I don’t think she survived, although I’m not sure why they’d have let that much blood go to waste. (But maybe it’s like people who shake up a bottle of Champagne and then let it spew everywhere.)
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### Author:  [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/63 "2010-07-29T19:10:07Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Yes, the sloppy eating bugs me, too. Especially the giant pools of blood left “unclaimed” around so many of their victims. One of the vampire tropes that has always made sense to me is that you can tell a vampire victim because the body has been completely drained of all blood, i.e. the vampires won’t waste a drop. Except that these vampires apparently don’t give a shit about how much blood they are wasting, considering how much of it gets all over their faces, hair, clothing, surrounding furniture, etc. Yeah, yeah, they don’t have to worry so much about wastage in this universe with TruBlood so handy and all. But it still bugs me.
They were wasteful even before TruBlood was invented. I remember a Bill and Lorena flashback scene last season. It was set in the 1920’s or 30’s and they were feeding in a hotel and making quite the mess.
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### Author:  [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/64 "2010-07-29T19:32:05Z")
> [@SteveG1](#):
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> > Yeah, that was a pretty impressive smashjob - but tellingly incomplete.
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> I think he will be coming back. After all, there was a perfectly good axe on the same wall as the mace and it didn’t get ued. Big mistake in my book. Bash the head, OK. Sever the head, way better. Sever the head and bring it out into full sunlight? Even better yet.
His head was smashed to bits and in pieces. Is should be good enough to kill him. Of course, the writers may let him survive if he’s needed for the plot.
> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> When the king, Bill, and Bill’s maker fed on the dancer in the limo - was it your impression she survived and they glamored her?
She’s dead. When Bill glamored her in the club, he asked her if she had any family or friends. When she said that her family was all dead, she never had kids and she didn’t even have friends in town, he chose her for sacrifice.
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### Author:  [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/65 "2010-07-29T20:39:41Z")
> [@Fugazi](#):
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> > Yes, the sloppy eating bugs me, too. Especially the giant pools of blood left “unclaimed” around so many of their victims. One of the vampire tropes that has always made sense to me is that you can tell a vampire victim because the body has been completely drained of all blood, i.e. the vampires won’t waste a drop. Except that these vampires apparently don’t give a shit about how much blood they are wasting, considering how much of it gets all over their faces, hair, clothing, surrounding furniture, etc. Yeah, yeah, they don’t have to worry so much about wastage in this universe with TruBlood so handy and all. But it still bugs me.
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> They were wasteful even before TruBlood was invented. I remember a Bill and Lorena flashback scene last season. It was set in the 1920’s or 30’s and they were feeding in a hotel and making quite the mess.
I think part of the pleasure of a really good meal is practically bathing in the blood and glorying in the bloodiness of it all.
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### Author:  [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/66 "2010-07-29T20:42:17Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> Well, Bill would have said anything to defend vampires. He probably thought it was the thing to say to a cop without glamoring him in front of Sookie.
Good point.
By the way, is everyone jazzed that they mentioned the infamous self-winding chain from the first ep? I remember we had lengthy discussions of that!
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### Author:  [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/67 "2010-07-29T20:53:30Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> You messed up the quoting again Dinsdale. 🙂
Man, I’d be better off sticking to pen and ink! :smack:
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### Author:  [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/68 "2010-07-29T23:54:18Z")
I agree that they killed the stripper based on Bill’s questions to her in the strip club. But I could just as easily believe they let her live and Bill only asked to make sure no awkward questions would be asked of her in the coming weeks. The brutality of the feeding didn’t sway me at all, since Lafayette was fed on just as brutally by Eric et al and he seems no worse for wear.
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### Author:  [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/69 "2010-07-30T01:16:23Z")
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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> By the way, is everyone jazzed that they mentioned the infamous self-winding chain from the first ep? I remember we had lengthy discussions of that!
I’m interested in seeing how much longer they tease this out. And impressed that the writers actually remember that scene from the pilot - my expectations for continuity have forever been damaged by the X-Files writing staff 😃
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### Author:  [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/70 "2010-07-30T13:13:34Z")
> [@EllisDee](#):
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> The brutality of the feeding didn’t sway me at all, since Lafayette was fed on just as brutally by Eric et al and he seems no worse for wear.
Good point. I had forgotten about that. I had assumed that was the last we’d see of Lafayette (as the writers/directors no doubt intended!)
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/71 "2010-07-31T15:05:31Z")
Eric’s coming on to Russel is a bit puzzling. If he swings both ways, wouldn’t that be known in the vampire society? They’ve been around long enough in close proximity that Russel should know. Or are we to assume the he really does swing both ways…?
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### Author:  [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/72 "2010-07-31T15:25:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Eric’s coming on to Russel is a bit puzzling. If he swings both ways, wouldn’t that be known in the vampire society? They’ve been around long enough in close proximity that Russel should know. Or are we to assume the he really does swing both ways…?
I got the impression from earlier episodes that Russel doesn’t know Eric very well at all, even by reputation. That could be a false impression, but that’s what I took away from the earlier episodes this season.
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### Author:  [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/73 "2010-07-31T15:25:21Z")
I think sexuality is a bit more fluid in the True Blood universe, at least among the vampires. I.e., I think it’s probably not terribly unusual for someone to be “swinging both ways.” Perhaps Russell is the odd one out for sticking solely to one gender for so long. Dunno for sure, but that’s just the vibe I pick up. (Heh.)
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### Author:  [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/74 "2010-07-31T15:29:42Z")
Russell didn’t even know that Eric was a Sheriff until Eric told him. I don’t think he really knows him at all.
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### Author:  [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/75 "2010-07-31T15:35:48Z")
I haven’t been watching too closely but I thought Eric was going to make a move, for whatever nefarious reasons, for Talbot, Russell’s SO.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/76 "2010-07-31T15:49:22Z")
Perhaps that’s how Eric plans to get vengeance on Russell; by killing Talbot.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/77 "2010-07-31T15:49:58Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Russell didn’t even know that Eric was a Sheriff until Eric told him. I don’t think he really knows him at all.
You’re probably right. I’m just finding it hard to believe\*. And Eric should expect Russel to have spied on him pretty thoroughly. It just seems like sloppy plot development. Eric would be taking a huge risk by assuming that Russel didn’t spy on him. Of course, if he uses the stupid werewolves as spies, as he seem to do, then he’s going to have some sloppy intelligence data.
As for Eric making a play for Talbot, I think he’s playing a chess game here and we don’t know all the moves he has in mind (pardon the pun) to get to his goal. And I assume his goal is to kill Russel. Maybe he gets Talbot to do the dirty deed (the other dirty deed, that is).
\*I say this as we’re discussing a TV show about vampires. 🙂
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### Author:  [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-episode-30-what-was-the-music-during-closing-credits/548010/78 "2010-07-31T17:58:36Z")
Well, I think it’s pretty safe to assume Russel is going to die soon. Eric finally knows who’s supplying the weres and he’ll eventually take action. Unfortunately, Russel is one of the few vamps that are stronger than him.
Regarding the sexuality of vampires, I think they lean towards one sex, but enjoy the company of others as well.
Book spoilers:
Russell and Sofie last quite a while in the books and they either get married or get very close to it. The vamp blood fueled werewolves are only a minor issue in the book though. While they are the main enemies for a good chunk of the book they’re in, they are only a threat because it’s the first time they’re being introduced. I never understood how they were any threat to vamps. But the vampires were never supplying them with blood, the weres were getting them just like a human would.
Talbot and Russell have been fighting a lot since Eric payed them a visit. Driving them apart is probably part of Eric’s plan, although I’m not really sure what purpose that serves.
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