# True Blood: "Evil Is Going On" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 13, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547 "2010-09-13T00:38:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Anne\_Elk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Anne\_Elk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Elk)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/61 "2010-09-14T22:53:47Z")
Who do you call for a night delivery of cement? Vamps seem to have more pull then the mob in the south. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/62 "2010-09-15T01:49:40Z")
> [@Anne\_Elk](#): > > Who do you call for a night delivery of cement? Vamps seem to have more pull then the mob in the south. I’m not sure about Louisiana, but lots of job sites go 24 hours. Deadlines you know. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/63 "2010-09-15T01:52:30Z")
> [@Anne\_Elk](#): > > Who do you call for a night delivery of cement? Vamps seem to have more pull then the mob in the south. Not only that, but who just drops off the cement truck with two guys. I thought the cement truck driver is typically the one operating it. Perhaps Alcide’s family owns the cement company as well…or the call was something along the lines of "Just have the truck full and ready and we’ll come pick it up, it’ll be back in an hour…there’s an extra $100 in it for you, but it needs to be ready to go in 10 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/64 "2010-09-15T06:42:56Z")
[quote=“Joey\_P, post:63, topic:553547”] > [@Anne\_Elk](#): > > "Just have the truck full and ready and we’ll come pick it up, it’ll be back in an hour…there’s an extra $100 in it for you, but it needs to be ready to go in 10 minutes. Which begs the question… how do mobsters do it? ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/65 "2010-09-15T14:05:56Z")
I thought something very similar to **Joey** –not only did they not have any plumbing in there, they didn’t even appear to have any rebar in there, and nobody to finish the concrete. Pouring concrete is not a matter of dumping shit in a hole and fucking off home for the rest of the day. Unless Alcide or his dad is the foreman on this job, there’s going to be a foreman and a whole crew wanting to know who the hell poured this concrete that wasn’t here when we knocked off last night, and more importantly, who made such a goddamn mess of it. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/66 "2010-09-15T14:19:29Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > I thought something very similar to **Joey** –not only did they not have any plumbing in there, they didn’t even appear to have any rebar in there, and nobody to finish the concrete. Pouring concrete is not a matter of dumping shit in a hole and fucking off home for the rest of the day. Unless Alcide or his dad is the foreman on this job, there’s going to be a foreman and a whole crew wanting to know who the hell poured this concrete that wasn’t here when we knocked off last night, and more importantly, who made such a goddamn mess of it. I thought I saw some rebar, but I wasn’t really paying attention. My thoughts are that either this is going to be a rather deep foundation and they only filled it, say, halfway and the morning crew will drill holes and epoxy some rebar in and finish filling OR once Eric and Bill leave, a crew would come in right away to finish the job. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/67 "2010-09-15T18:48:24Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Which begs the question… how do mobsters do it? They, or someone in their organization, runs a legitimate cement or contracting business and doesn’t ask too many questions. I wonder if encasing a dead body in cement is used much in the world of crime. Seems a great way to preserve evidence to me. Also, you end up with a crappy bit of concrete that can’t be used for something important, because there is this corpse-shaped section that… well… isn’t filled with concrete. Rebar or no, that can’t be good. Of course, vampires that you want to imprison, probably ok. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/68 "2010-09-15T19:31:39Z")
They should have sunk the dried, vampire holding, block of concrete down to the bottom of the ocean. You know, Dexter style. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/69 "2010-09-15T19:44:21Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > They should have sunk the dried, vampire holding, block of concrete down to the bottom of the ocean. You know, Dexter style. i’m pretty sure there was a Highlander episode where they put an immortal in a safe underwater. The bonus there was that he’d drown and revive countless times. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/70 "2010-09-15T19:51:54Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > I thought something very similar to **Joey** –not only did they not have any plumbing in there, they didn’t even appear to have any rebar in there, and nobody to finish the concrete. Pouring concrete is not a matter of dumping shit in a hole and fucking off home for the rest of the day. Unless Alcide or his dad is the foreman on this job, there’s going to be a foreman and a whole crew wanting to know who the hell poured this concrete that wasn’t here when we knocked off last night, and more importantly, who made such a goddamn mess of it. Alcide’s dad owns what seems to be a pretty big and sucessful constuction company that does diverse stuff (the money problems come from Jackson Herveaux’s gambling addiction, not the business doing poorly). Not only do they do things like repair and construct homes, they also lay gravel driveways and so on. I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure Alcide is the foreman for a lot of the jobs. I don’t understand what you meant about plumbing, though. Wouldn’t that be put in later so it’s not accidentally covered in concrete when they fill in the foundation? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/71 "2010-09-15T19:58:46Z")
> [@lisacurl](#): > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > Which begs the question… how do mobsters do it? > > They, or someone in their organization, runs a legitimate cement or contracting business and doesn’t ask too many questions. A guy I once knew was from New Orleans and claimed to have been involved with organized crime family in his ‘yute’. He was certainly capable of embellishing: to hear him tell it (while working for 3 under the table dollars an hour here and there when he could get it and living on food stamps and charity) he was the NOLA Mafia equivalent of Al Neri and Tom Hagan rolled into one- but some of his stories did check out when I researched them and his taller tales had some elements of truth in them, and while I can’t imagine any mobster who wasn’t stumblingly retarded trusting Rick with any confidence or task bigger than picking up their dry cleaning (add to which he wasn’t even Sicilian or Italian) I’ve no trouble believing he hung out with and maybe worked with the street level guys. Anyway, per Rick he got his introductions when he worked for a mafia owned or affiliated construction company. (Construction contracts are notoriously corrupt in many cities but NOLA was one of the cities where people literally had lifelong careers in them- that 60 foot two lane bridge shouldn’t take anymore than 8 years and $112 million to build). He said that it wasn’t unusual when they were pouring cement or digging really deep foundation holes or what not for the bosses to get generous and tell everybody to take off early with pay, go home or to a bar or anywhere that’s not here, we’ll finish tomorrow. They’d come back the next day and the cement had been poured or the hole had been bulldozed over or whatever. I wouldn’t believe just Rick’s account of this, but I’ve heard variations on TV documentaries: mob owned (or owner who was mob-affiliated owned) garbage trucks that were called back to dispatch for some mysterious mechanical problem that strangely the drivers in it hadn’t noticed but the guy at the yard five miles away had heard, or a truckdriver who would notice that the delivery of 3 ton boxes marked “Baby Diapers” he made to a Galveston dock the week before was strangely shown to have been “canned salmon and tuna” and made to a Shreveport grocery store warehouse in the logs, and by the way, don’t ask questions. The mob (Mafia and otherwise) has centuries of practice in getting their fingers into all kinds of relevant businesses and “subcontractors”. We’ve all probably done business with a Monster Joe’s Junkyard (_Pulp Fiction_ reference) or several over the years and never known the guy with the gold tooth who calls you ‘Bub’ and asks ‘Hot enough for ya?’ knows how to import. conceal, or get rid of a dead elephant should the need arise. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/72 "2010-09-15T20:33:57Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > > [@lisacurl](#): > > > > They, or someone in their organization, runs a legitimate cement or contracting business and doesn’t ask too many questions. > > A guy I once knew was from New Orleans and claimed to have been involved with organized crime family in his ‘yute’. He was certainly capable of embellishing: to hear him tell it (while working for 3 under the table dollars an hour here and there when he could get it and living on food stamps and charity) he was the NOLA Mafia equivalent of Al Neri and Tom Hagan rolled into one- but some of his stories did check out when I researched them and his taller tales had some elements of truth in them, and while I can’t imagine any mobster who wasn’t stumblingly retarded trusting Rick with any confidence or task bigger than picking up their dry cleaning (add to which he wasn’t even Sicilian or Italian) I’ve no trouble believing he hung out with and maybe worked with the street level guys. > > Anyway, per Rick he got his introductions when he worked for a mafia owned or affiliated construction company. (Construction contracts are notoriously corrupt in many cities but NOLA was one of the cities where people literally had lifelong careers in them- that 60 foot two lane bridge shouldn’t take anymore than 8 years and $112 million to build). He said that it wasn’t unusual when they were pouring cement or digging really deep foundation holes or what not for the bosses to get generous and tell everybody to take off early with pay, go home or to a bar or anywhere that’s not here, we’ll finish tomorrow. They’d come back the next day and the cement had been poured or the hole had been bulldozed over or whatever. I wouldn’t believe just Rick’s account of this, but I’ve heard variations on TV documentaries: mob owned (or owner who was mob-affiliated owned) garbage trucks that were called back to dispatch for some mysterious mechanical problem that strangely the drivers in it hadn’t noticed but the guy at the yard five miles away had heard, or a truckdriver who would notice that the delivery of 3 ton boxes marked “Baby Diapers” he made to a Galveston dock the week before was strangely shown to have been “canned salmon and tuna” and made to a Shreveport grocery store warehouse in the logs, and by the way, don’t ask questions. > > The mob (Mafia and otherwise) has centuries of practice in getting their fingers into all kinds of relevant businesses and “subcontractors”. We’ve all probably done business with a Monster Joe’s Junkyard (_Pulp Fiction_ reference) or several over the years and never known the guy with the gold tooth who calls you ‘Bub’ and asks ‘Hot enough for ya?’ knows how to import. conceal, or get rid of a dead elephant should the need arise. I was born and raised in NOLA. My father and grandfather had a small specialized construction-related business. My grandfather was the children of Sicilian immigrants… actually, I’d have to check to see if he was born in the U.S or not. I think his older siblings were born in Palermo, but he was one of the younger. I’m not saying in any way that my family was connected, but they were aware of the Marcellos, let us just say. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/73 "2010-09-15T20:39:24Z")
> [@lisacurl](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > I got the impression that Alcide (and his father?) were involved in that construction site, and could cover for that. But I could be wrong about that. > > The sign on the fence said Herveaux Contractors, but it was easy to miss. Oddly, I had no idea what Alcide’s last name is, but for some reason I still thought he was connected to the job site. Was there nothing in the dialog to indicate that? Because, otherwise, I might be one them thar supernaturals!!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/74 "2010-09-15T22:05:29Z")
Has anybody noticed that in certain lighting- like whenever the camera is on him- Alcide is somewhat [gorgeous](http://alcideherveaux.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/alcide-3.jpg)? [Funny clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbjIq6htb_A)from this year’s Dragoncon: Nelsan Ellis (LaFayette) talking about the scene last year when Alexander Skarsgard dressed as his (character’s) mother. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/75 "2010-09-15T23:08:40Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > > [@lisacurl](#): > > > > The sign on the fence said Herveaux Contractors, but it was easy to miss. > > Oddly, I had no idea what Alcide’s last name is, but for some reason I still thought he was connected to the job site. Was there nothing in the dialog to indicate that? > > Because, otherwise, I might be one them thar supernaturals!!! :eek: He mentioned the family constuction business in the first episode he was in, when he was explaining that he’d agreed to help her in exchange for Eric taking care of some of his dad’s debt. Then, in the finale he mentioned that debt again. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/76 "2010-09-15T23:27:21Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Has anybody noticed that in certain lighting- like whenever the camera is on him- Alcide is somewhat [gorgeous](http://alcideherveaux.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/alcide-3.jpg)? I don’t know if he’s as tall as he appears, or if it’s just in contrast to Sookie, but as a straight guy, I would find him very intimidating IRL. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/77 "2010-09-16T00:52:22Z")
I don’t think anyone’s mentioned it yet but…what the hell is on the floor during the pan-out from Hoyt and Jessica in their new house? It looked like…I dunno. Kind of like a shriveled corpse? I rewound, and have watched it again, and still can’t see what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/78 "2010-09-16T01:27:12Z")
And when the hell are they going to finish cleaning up Sookie’s house? That thing has been trashed for like a season and a half now. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/79 "2010-09-16T01:33:33Z")
> [@Amp](#): > > And when the hell are they going to finish cleaning up Sookie’s house? That thing has been trashed for like a season and a half now. Which is like, what, 3 hours in True Blood time. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547/80 "2010-09-16T01:37:48Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > I don’t think anyone’s mentioned it yet but…what the hell is on the floor during the pan-out from Hoyt and Jessica in their new house? It looked like…I dunno. Kind of like a shriveled corpse? I rewound, and have watched it again, and still can’t see what it is. I just re-watched that part. Are you talking about at the end of the scene when the eerie music comes on and they cut to Hoyt’s mom looking at shotguns? It looked like a (large, maybe 1.5-2 foot) doll. I assume we’ll be seeing more of it next season. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-evil-is-going-on/553547.md?page=5)