# True Blood; Jun-27-10 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 28, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806 "2010-06-28T17:03:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/61 "2010-07-01T05:47:27Z")
> [@crazyjoe](#): > > The glamoring of the invites is not unique to TB vampires. I remember thinking it was rather dumb that it could be done when I played D&D way back when, but it does make some sense. Why would a doorway protect you from a vamp’s powers? Well, why even have the “vamps have to be invited in” rule? It’s part of the mythology for whatever reason. So make it make sense. It makes no sense to set out a stipulation that may be important and then just give them the ability to negate it anyway. What’s the point of introducing the idea into the mythology in the first place in that case? ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/62 "2010-07-01T11:18:54Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Well, why even have the “vamps have to be invited in” rule? It’s part of the mythology for whatever reason. So make it make sense. It makes no sense to set out a stipulation that may be important and then just give them the ability to negate it anyway. What’s the point of introducing the idea into the mythology in the first place in that case? Because if you’re not stupid enough to stand there making eye contact while you argue about it, you can have a safe haven from them. And after the glamouring wears off, you can revoke the invitation and they are involuntarily schlorped out the door. ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/63 "2010-07-01T18:32:15Z")
> [@filling\_pages](#): > > You mean aside from using your human brain to win dog fights as a pit bull? I assume that’s how little bro got all those scars. That’s what I assumed also. But I’m not sure having a human brain during a dog fight would be an advantage. Real dogs know how other dogs think. And who was posing as his owner? ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/64 "2010-07-01T18:52:21Z")
Maybe his drunken dad. Wouldn’t surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/65 "2010-07-01T20:18:05Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Well, why even have the “vamps have to be invited in” rule? It’s part of the mythology for whatever reason. So make it make sense. It makes no sense to set out a stipulation that may be important and then just give them the ability to negate it anyway. What’s the point of introducing the idea into the mythology in the first place in that case? Obviously different people have differing abilities to resist the glamour, which was the case in D&D as well. Your run of the mill citizen would only very rarely resist (and then still might be dazed and suceptible to a second attempt), but a veteran warrior (or sorceror, or other supernatural) would have a better change of resisting. ---
**Author:** ![Pocito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@Pocito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pocito)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/66 "2010-07-02T02:07:16Z")
The way I interpret the sex scene is that Bill only had sex with her because she commanded him to. Didn’t she say something along the lines of, “Make love to me”? In the books, a vampire has to submit to his/her maker’s will, so he did it in the most brutal, grudgingly way possible. But through his pants??? That seems to be brutal to the wrong person. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/67 "2010-07-02T03:17:02Z")
From a flashback scene last season, she released him in the 1920’s. He doesn’t have to listen to her anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/68 "2010-07-03T23:56:40Z")
> [@Pocito](#): > > But through his pants??? That seems to be brutal to the wrong person. Bill is shown to quickly undo his pants right after he rips her clothes off and before he starts thrusting. So presumably “little Bill” is free and clear of any clothing. He’s not thrusting through his pants. ---
**Author:** ![Dennis3240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eada6e/32.png) [@Dennis3240](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dennis3240)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/69 "2010-07-04T02:24:27Z")
A thought that has not been mentioned yet. Am I the only one who finds it highly implausible that the Queen of Mississippi would either have to or choose to sell vampire blood to pay off her debt to the IRS? I just don’t think it would be that difficult for a vampire to come up with money by legal means or not. Selling your most sacred thing for cash when you have the allegence of the entire state of Mississippi at your disposle just seems silly. The geneological tree Franklin found was in Bill’s house. If it turns out Bill’s imfatuation with Sookie is because Sookie is Bill’s great great great granddaughter or something I think I’m going to puke. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/70 "2010-07-04T04:01:38Z")
> [@Dennis3240](#): > > A thought that has not been mentioned yet. Am I the only one who finds it highly implausible that the Queen of Mississippi would either have to or choose to sell vampire blood to pay off her debt to the IRS? I just don’t think it would be that difficult for a vampire to come up with money by legal means or not. Selling your most sacred thing for cash when you have the allegence of the entire state of Mississippi at your disposle just seems silly. > > The geneological tree Franklin found was in Bill’s house. If it turns out Bill’s imfatuation with Sookie is because Sookie is Bill’s great great great granddaughter or something I think I’m going to puke. It’ll be worse than that - she’ll end up being the great great great grandaughter of his wife during the civil war - and she won’t be his! ---
**Author:** ![Dennis3240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eada6e/32.png) [@Dennis3240](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dennis3240)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/71 "2010-07-04T05:14:22Z")
> [@simster](#): > > It’ll be worse than that - she’ll end up being the great great great grandaughter of his wife during the civil war - and she won’t be his! HA! That would be funny!! ---
**Author:** ![Barking\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Barking\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Dog)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/72 "2010-07-04T14:03:10Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > admittedly a lot more than J.K. Rowling’s subtlety in in Remus Lupin- with a name like that how can you _not_ get bitten by a werewolf?) Are you kidding?? Rowling’s puns are much more subtle. Which isn’t really a compliment. Just that anybody could get the Lou Pine pun. But somebody without a passing knowledge of classical mythology might not get a lot of Rowling’s puns. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/73 "2010-07-06T22:23:19Z")
> [@Dennis3240](#): > > A thought that has not been mentioned yet. Am I the only one who finds it highly implausible that the Queen of Mississippi would either have to or choose to sell vampire blood to pay off her debt to the IRS? I just don’t think it would be that difficult for a vampire to come up with money by legal means or not. Selling your most sacred thing for cash when you have the allegence of the entire state of Mississippi at your disposle just seems silly. Yeah, can’t she just go all Anna Nicole Smith and glamor some old rich dude into leaving her his money? And can’t she just glamor who ever the IRS sends to collect anyway? What exactly is the IRS taxing her on by the way? How do vampire queens normally derive their incomes? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/74 "2010-07-07T05:36:30Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > And can’t she just glamor who ever the IRS sends to collect anyway? What, you think the IRS would give up when one person fails to collect? Keep in mind that the vampires are (mostly) trying to pass themselves off as upstanding citizens. An unending stream of IRS agents who mysteriously fail to collect her back taxes wouldn’t help that image any. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/75 "2010-07-07T13:13:54Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > What, you think the IRS would give up when one person fails to collect? Keep in mind that the vampires are (mostly) trying to pass themselves off as upstanding citizens. An unending stream of IRS agents who mysteriously fail to collect her back taxes wouldn’t help that image any. Besides which, I kind of assumed that the IRS would employ some vampire agents to help out with collecting the vampire taxes, similar to how the books mention that there are vampire cops. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/76 "2010-07-08T05:07:19Z")
Did she actually say IRS, or could it be property tax? Or even a vampire-society tax? ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/77 "2010-07-12T15:56:26Z")
Will there be no discussion? (though it was a silly episode) My only comments: poor Tara, kidnapped by the ever more creepy Franklin. Sookie looks spectacular with black hair. And they introduce a new, truly creepy horror with Sam’s storyline: trashy relatives that won’t go away. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/78 "2010-07-12T16:08:58Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > Will there be no discussion? (though it was a silly episode) My only comments: poor Tara, kidnapped by the ever more creepy Franklin. Sookie looks spectacular with black hair. And they introduce a new, truly creepy horror with Sam’s storyline: trashy relatives that won’t go away. I loved the line “They’re grilling in the parking lot…”. Eric having erotic thoughts about Sookie was pretty hot as well. I wonder if it’s intentional that King Russell so closely resembles Jim Jones (the dark glasses, smooth regional accent, and of course insanity). Procuring and helping to kill the dancer (I assumed they were just going to feed off of her, but she’s not coming back from that kind of draining) really made Bill’s character cross the Rubicon. I like Alcide’s sister; she can stay. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/79 "2010-07-12T16:22:18Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > trashy relatives that won’t go away. Much, _much_ worse than vampires and werewolves. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806/80 "2010-07-12T16:37:01Z")
Can 18 year olds drink beer in Louisiana? I was wondering because of the high school jocks drinking beer _in front of the entire sheriff’s department_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-jun-27-10/544806.md?page=5)