# True Blood season finale 11/23 (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [November 24, 2008, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214 "2008-11-24T05:35:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/1 "2008-11-24T05:35:30Z")

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Pretty exciting conclusion with lots of interesting set up for next season. Sookie is one lucky girl to have Sam and Bill just dying to save her life. I’m curious to know the connection between Sam and Maryann.

I just have one burning question:

Is Lafayette dead??? He’s my favorite character and it’ll suck if he was eaten by Bill, which is what I thought happened until the end. They said he was that he’d been missing for 2 weeks, so how did he wind up in the back seat of Bellefleur’s car? Anyone who’s read the books who could PM me on this, please? There’s no way I can wait until summer to find out. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/2 "2008-11-24T06:17:38Z")

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I wouldn’t mind a PM about that too! I’m crossing my fingers that even if the book kills him off, that Ball will do something else with it (maybe a vampire?) From what I’ve read, it sounds like after season one he doesn’t intend to follow the books closely.

Lafayette was my favorite too ☹

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/3 "2008-11-24T10:08:40Z")

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I dont’ think Bill would kill Lafayette, there’s nothing we’ve seen which would indicate Bill would be so motivated. They certainly did make it look like a vampire attack, though. And his body shows up after 2 weeks? So we’re to believe that he hasn’t been dead for 2 weeks? Is he dead now?

The only person we’ve been shown who would have it out for Lafayette would be the senator. And what’s up with Sam throwing all the money in the bag? Is he taking off?

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/4 "2008-11-24T13:52:03Z")

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> [@zuma](#):
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> I dont’ think Bill would kill Lafayette, there’s nothing we’ve seen which would indicate Bill would be so motivated. They certainly did make it look like a vampire attack, though. And his body shows up after 2 weeks? So we’re to believe that he hasn’t been dead for 2 weeks? Is he dead now?
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> The only person we’ve been shown who would have it out for Lafayette would be the senator. And what’s up with Sam throwing all the money in the bag? Is he taking off?

How did I miss his body showing up? :mad:

Could someone explain that until I watch the end again sometime this week? I saw something attack him and I saw the scene where they discuss him disappearing… what happened with his body?

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**Author:** ![LVBoPeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LVBoPeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVBoPeep)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/5 "2008-11-24T14:06:32Z")

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I think Eric and his gang attacked him- when they left off Bill’s “little girl” vampire (hilarious scene btw!), as they were leaving I THINK that Eric said to Pam that “You can just feed on Layfayette”) I do not think he is dead though, not the way they took care not to say that for sure on the season finale- it was almost only tacked on there. I think season 2 might invovle him being held by the vampires, who must have found out about his V dealing and are making him pay.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/6 "2008-11-24T14:09:19Z")

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Whoops, forgot!

You never saw his body- just a black leg sticking out of Bellefleur’s car, which made them scream like crazy, so they must have recognized him (what other black male on the show would have painted nails?)

I am disappointed too that we have to wait for awhile to figure out what’s the deal with MaryAnn although I had to laugh at Tara’s new found attitude.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/7 "2008-11-24T14:12:35Z")

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> [@zuma](#):
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> I dont’ think Bill would kill Lafayette, there’s nothing we’ve seen which would indicate Bill would be so motivated.

Bill was burnt to a crisp and needed to feed in order to heal. He was probably not in his right mind when he rose in the morning, starving. It was probably an accident that it was Lafayette who happened to be the mortal around when he was looking for a meal. That’s my interpretation. I fear that Lafayette is dead, and that will suck!

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**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/8 "2008-11-24T14:42:46Z")

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I totally missed the possibly of that being Lafayette’s body in the car. But why would Lafayette jump up on top of the dumpster to get away from vampires? Since he went high, I figured it was an animal after him, like maybe the giant pig.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/9 "2008-11-24T17:06:35Z")

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Bill had to feed? Spending a night in the dirt wasn’t enough?

Yeah, whatever happened to Lafayette is puzzling, so I’d like a PM too. Or just post it here in a spoiler box.

Jason’s behavior is confusing too. He asks the jailer for something to read because the church pamphlet puts him to sleep. He defends Eddy as a good man and his friend. And there he is in that stupid church! Here I thought the stupid had been knocked out of him. What a dumbass.

Loved Bill coming to Sookie’s rescue. Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/10 "2008-11-24T18:19:20Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> Jason’s behavior is confusing too. He asks the jailer for something to read because the church pamphlet puts him to sleep. He defends Eddy as a good man and his friend. And there he is in that stupid church! Here I thought the stupid had been knocked out of him. What a dumbass.

In Jason’s mind he was “saved”. He thinks it was some miracle that he was cleared of being the killer. Which just shows how easily led he is.

In reality it would have happened sooner or later. Had Drew/Renee killed Sookie in his usual manner (strangulation) it certainly would have cleared Jason.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/11 "2008-11-24T18:31:38Z")

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I didn’t quite catch the conversation between Bill and the crew of vampires who dropped Jessica off. Was the gist basically Jessica was such a pain in the ass that no favor from Bill would ever be worth having to deal with her?  
I think we’re supposed to infer Bill fed on Lafayette, but he probably didn’t.  
“Bill! You’re alive!!”

“technically…no”

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/12 "2008-11-24T19:01:39Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I think we’re supposed to infer Bill fed on Lafayette, but he probably didn’t.

I don’t think so either. If Bill was weak when he crawled out of that grave, he wouldn’t have been able to take Lafayette down. And Lafayette wouldn’t have been afraid of Bill. Maybe Bill fed on some small animals, or maybe he didn’t have to feed at all.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/13 "2008-11-24T19:11:12Z")

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I’m pretty sure he explicitly said that he had fed, when he told Sookie that he wasn’t alive, but he was healed. I don’t think he fed on Lafayette, though. Even if he were all burned and gross, I don’t think Lafayette would have tried to get away from him. More likely he’d have trotted (or swished) straight inside to nuke a bottle of Trublood for him. And quipped over his shoulder “And then we have _got_ to discuss yo’ skin care regimen.”

Besides, Lafayette certainly has enough sense to know you can’t get away from a vampire by climbing on top of a dumpster. They’re not like the thing under the bed that can’t get you if your foot isn’t hanging over the edge.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/14 "2008-11-24T19:13:52Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> I don’t think so either. If Bill was weak when he crawled out of that grave, he wouldn’t have been able to take Lafayette down. And Lafayette wouldn’t have been afraid of Bill. Maybe Bill fed on some small animals, or maybe he didn’t have to feed at all.

Bill specifically said that he fed - and that usually does not mean opening a luke warm bottle.

We are supposed to infer that Bill attacked Laffayette, but like others, I doubt it.

Whatever attacked Laffayette ‘scared’ him, and is therefore likely not to be a Vampire - Laffayette was used to vampires - maybe a werepig?

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/15 "2008-11-24T19:20:19Z")

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I missed the last four episodes, including this one. I am sad.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/16 "2008-11-24T20:30:21Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> We are supposed to infer that Bill attacked Laffayette, but like others, I doubt it.

I don’t think we’re supposed to infer this. Lafayette’s body wasn’t found until two weeks after Bill was revived, and Bill wouldn’t have put the body in Bellefleur’s car. If these events had been closer in time then yeah, we might be expected to make the inference.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/17 "2008-11-24T21:36:46Z")

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The episode before last is the clue as to what may have happened to Lafayette. Remember, he dressed up in a suit and during a meet and greet he made a not so subtle implied threat to the moral crusading politician who was one of his customers…

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/18 "2008-11-24T22:07:51Z")

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They are clearly trying to infer on one level that Bill fed on Lafayette, but it doesn’t take much additional thought to see that that’s too obvious, and he had another enemy that would want him dead, the senator. Which makes that too obvious too, so it’s some third option. Or not even Lafayette’s body at all.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/19 "2008-11-24T23:51:48Z")

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Although the leg was shown so quickly, it didn’t seem to me to be the leg of someone who’d been dead for two weeks. Maybe he’s undead?

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**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-blood-season-finale-11-23-open-spoilers/474214/20 "2008-11-25T00:23:14Z")

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I hate belaboring stuff, but I don’t see that they’re trying to make any connection between Bill and Lafayette. Maybe I need to watch again.

I’m sure it’s Lafayette – painted toenails (we saw Lafayette paint his toenails) and a man’s foot. I think he’s freshly dead. It’s possible that Lafayette’s fright at the dumpster is unrelated to his death later. Maybe what scared him was Sam returning to Merlotte’s as a dog and quickly changing back to his human form. In other words, a fake-out.

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