# True Detective - HBO - McConaughey / Harrelson \[SPOILERS\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 11, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697 "2013-06-11T03:43:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/341 "2014-03-03T19:41:57Z")

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OK, I got mixed up that Childress was the sheriff then, somehow got it in my head the Geraci mentioned he was a deputy somewhere now.

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/342 "2014-03-03T20:05:08Z")

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Too many sheriffs and ex-sheriffs and deputies and deputy sheriffs in the mix!

Ha, just thought of a mnemonic to help us remember that Geraci is now a full-on sheriff:

I shocked the sheriff  
But I did not shock the deputy . . .

(d&r)

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/343 "2014-03-03T21:10:28Z")

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> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#):
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> OK, I got mixed up that Childress was the sheriff then, somehow got it in my head the Geraci mentioned he was a deputy somewhere now.

One of the officers where the guy killed himself in jail was also a Childress. (or the same one? Don’t recall his first name, but Rust asked and was told the two officers names when they reviewed the video that ends with the blood seeping out of the jail cell)

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/344 "2014-03-03T21:45:06Z")

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I heard Linda Thompson’s voice on the soundtrack. Someone (Rust?) has good taste. I doubt it would be randomly playing in rural Louisiana in 2010.

What was it Rust said to Maggie? It never set well with me that you asked me to lie to you about Marty? What?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/345 "2014-03-03T21:53:11Z")

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Wasn’t that microwave too small?

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/346 "2014-03-03T22:10:34Z")

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It only had to fit a baby; they aren’t very big.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/347 "2014-03-03T22:11:43Z")

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It looked too small for even a newborn baby to me. It looked like one of those plate-sized microwaves.

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**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/348 "2014-03-03T22:50:06Z")

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That’s a peculiar observation.

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/349 "2014-03-03T23:06:05Z")

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> [@babygoat666](#):
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> That’s a peculiar observation.

… Said **babygoat666**.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/350 "2014-03-03T23:07:39Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> …What was it Rust said to Maggie? It never set well with me that you asked me to lie to you about Marty? What?

I loved that line! The one somewhat supernatural element to this series is Rust’s ability to detect lies. He knew that Maggie already knew about Marty’s cheating, but she was using Rust to convince her otherwise. IIRC, Rust did lie to her about Marty once over the phone in one of the earlier episodes.

A phone call distracted me at the end of last night’s episode. Why did Maggie show up at Rust’s bar at the end?

While the series is supposed to end after Episode 8, there has to be some link to the next season. Will next season be Gilbough and Papania, who seem to be similarly annoyed with each other, searching for the Yellow King and Carcosa? 😃

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/351 "2014-03-03T23:13:04Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I loved that line! The one somewhat supernatural element to this series is Rust’s ability to detect lies. He knew that Maggie already knew about Marty’s cheating, but she was using Rust to convince her otherwise. IIRC, Rust did lie to her about Marty once over the phone in one of the earlier episodes.

So he took offense at something that almost anyone who starts suspecting a spouse of cheating would do? Seek assurance that it’s not happening?

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> A phone call distracted me at the end of last night’s episode. Why did Maggie show up at Rust’s bar at the end?

I think she was just curious. And she wanted assurance from Rust that Marty wasn’t getting into something that would get him killed.

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> While the series is supposed to end after Episode 8, there has to be some link to the next season. Will next season be Gilbough and Papania, who seem to be similarly annoyed with each other, searching for the Yellow King and Carcosa? 😃

Why does there _have_ to be a link? I’ve heard that it’s an anthology, which means that there need be no link.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/352 "2014-03-03T23:14:41Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> A phone call distracted me at the end of last night’s episode. Why did Maggie show up at Rust’s bar at the end?

Marty told her he agreed to help Rust with something. Maggie says at the bar she wants Rust to not get Marty killed, so presumably that’s what she went there to say.

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**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/353 "2014-03-03T23:49:48Z")

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> [@Steken](#):
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> … Said **babygoat666**.

Indeed, thanks **Steken**. Did I miss something there?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/354 "2014-03-03T23:55:19Z")

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I haven’t been able to watch episode 7 yet. Every time I open the SDMB this damned thread is here mocking me…ugh!

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/355 "2014-03-03T23:57:20Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> So he took offense at something that almost anyone who starts suspecting a spouse of cheating would do? Seek assurance that it’s not happening?

But she did know already. That was his point. Just because it didn’t “sit well” doesn’t necessarily mean that he was offended. He was probably just uncomfortable. Of all people, Maggie knew that Rust was never going to rat out his partner for cheating. She went to him because he was going to give her the answer that she wanted to hear.

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> I think she was just curious. And she wanted assurance from Rust that Marty wasn’t getting into something that would get him killed.

Did they show how she found him?

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> Why does there _have_ to be a link? I’ve heard that it’s an anthology, which means that there need be no link.

I didn’t say that there _has_ to be a link. But is it forbidden in anthologies or something? Anyway, that was kind of a joke, since now we see Papania and Gilbough going down the same roads, figuratively and literally, as Marty and Rust once did. And we also see the first signs of them being annoyed with each other, kind of like you know who. Time being a flat circle and all.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/356 "2014-03-04T00:13:12Z")

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I think Maggie is involved and she showed up to find out what the know. Did anyone else notice that when Marty was watching the video, his head blocked the G in the word king behind him? It said KIN.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/357 "2014-03-04T00:20:05Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I think she was just curious. And she wanted assurance from Rust that Marty wasn’t getting into something that would get him killed.

I’m probably reading too much into it – or reading it wrong – but Maggie still cares enough about Marty to hunt Rust down and ask what’s going on. I think Rust recognized this and is upset not just because she’s making him lie about Marty again, but because what they’re doing could get Marty killed. And Marty, unlike Rust, might have a reason to live.

If something happens to Marty, people will care. Rust has no one.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/358 "2014-03-04T00:26:05Z")

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:smack: He wasn’t resentful of the time _17 years ago_ when Maggie asked him whether Marty was cheating. He was resentful that at that moment, she wanted Rust to lie to her about Marty’s safety.

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**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/359 "2014-03-04T18:48:29Z")

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Does anyone know where there are screencaps to the picture of Marty’s daughter and the painting that she made from this past episode? Maggie was showing Marty it when he came to visit her. I swear that the painting had black stars.

This may be another coincidence, or at may be another link between Marty’s daughter and the larger plotline.

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-hbo-mcconaughey-harrelson-spoilers/660697/360 "2014-03-04T21:24:32Z")

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> [@Meltdown](#):
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> Does anyone know where there are screencaps to the picture of Marty’s daughter and the painting that she made from this past episode? Maggie was showing Marty it when he came to visit her. I swear that the painting had black stars.
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> This may be another coincidence, or at may be another link between Marty’s daughter and the larger plotline.

[Good catch!](http://s222.photobucket.com/user/UCinnamon/media/td1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)

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