True Detective - HBO - McConaughey / Harrelson [SPOILERS]

Isn’t it too much of a coincidence that Rust has an “in” with the specific biker gang that LeDoux supplies? Really? His sole customer? A bit far-fetched unless it’s a clue to the ultimate solution.

That said, I’m really glad I latched onto this show. The imagery alone is reason enough.

Somebody goes off in an air boat so you have a general idea of what direction they are heading? I swore they drove a car to stash house not an air boat. :wink: If Rust had on a a wire or something at least it would have been (very) remotely feasible Marty might have known what was going on. As it was, Marty could not have had ANY idea of what was going to happen next . Or where. For all he knew, they could have been taking Rust off to kill him. Or to go gigging frogs. Piss poor writing, IMHO.

MikeF, I’m starting to agree. Beaumont is a big place, pop. 100,000 - Wiki says it’s the largest Texas city east of Houston.

So it’s hard to figure how Marty managed to be so close to where Rust ended up, unless he knew in advance the general area where the stash house was – and he didn’t, did he?

Since the big story is that they caught the supposed murderer (LeDoux?) several years earlier, and the murders are happening again, I watch with one eye on “Where did they screw up?”

They keep wasting time following bad leads and not enough following the good leads. If LeDoux is not the real killer, then all the crap they just went through was for naught.

What was that line Rust gave to the interviewers about him figuring out why they were questioning him?

Unless I’m remembering it wrong, they never found LaDoux’s cabin in the previous episode - it was just a shot letting the audience see the killer.

I wish they would draw things out to make them a little more realistic. As it is, it seems like a quest line in an RPG game. Go see this guy, who tells you about another guy, who gives you a side quest, etc. And it seems people are way too forthcoming with info. Like the bartender knows the whole backstory for the stripper. Then the stripper’s husband tells Woody everything right away and it’s all true.

While this episode was great to watch, logistically it doesn’t make sense. There’s no reason to go rushing into this off-the-books undercover operation. Of course it all goes bad, which makes them seem incompetent. There’s so many other ways they could have done it that would have made more sense. This episode asked for a little too much suspension of disbelief.

This is a good point. I rewatched it again last night to marvel at the unbroken scene, and paid attention to the details of how Marty got there so fast. I was a little off:

Before it goes down, Rust tells Marty that if Marty loses him, monitor Beaumont police chatter. After Marty loses him, we see Marty drive to Beaumont and park his car in what appears to be a rideshare right off the highway. (But could be a parking lot right next to the police station.) He then starts reading his book while listening to the Beaumont police band. We do not see Marty again; the next two cuts are of Rust in the car on the way to the long, continuous take.

The helicopter overhead picks up on a disturbance pretty quickly, calling in for police backup. Consider this: several cop cars get there before Marty. The assumption is that Marty hears the same call from the helicopter that brings those cops running, and it’s not unreasonable to think that Marty can simply follow those cops to where it’s happening.

A bit of artistic license with the timing, for sure, but Marty is the lesser of two “how’d they get there so fast?” evils. The police cars getting there so fast strains credibility at least as much as Marty getting there. Multiple cop cars respond within 3-4 minutes of shots being fired in the projects?

A gripe I haven’t seen mentioned: How did Rust know to send Marty to Beaumont? He didn’t know Ginger’s plan at that point, did he?

…well of course, Ginger is working undercover, (you know how these Agencies are :rolleyes:) and after trying to bust Rust during their last get confrontation, decided to call the cops, as backup to take him down… wait, I’m confused…:confused:

I’m assuming the biker bar is in another part of Beaumont. As mentioned ealier, it’s a big town. So, even though the left the biker bar this doesn’t mean they travelled all that far.

This is, precisely, my gripe. Marty would have absolutely no idea where Rust was going or what he was doing.

If you’ve ever been drunk or high, and then suddenly found yourself in an emergency situation, you could probably relate. Adrenaline gets the job done.

I’m not from a place with bayou’s, so I’m not sure how they work, but the boat did have big 'ole bright lights on it. Was it possible he was able to follow it (if not to Ginger’s place exactly but to fairly close) and then was able to follow the car they were in to where he waited? Would it be fair to assume that bayou’s have roads along side or close enough to follow the boat lights? And that perhaps there was only one road in and out of Ginger’s place?

I’ve been a bit lukewarm about the series so far, but that sequence blew me away. Holy shit was that tense.

If Marty parked across the street from the police station when we saw him reading his book, all he had to do was follow the half dozen cop cars who responded to the helicopter’s call.

I’m enjoying it. Weirdly, I agree with just about everything Rust says regarding life, the universe, and everything, while generally being pretty happy go lucky about it all. Yeah, I’m a meat puppet constructed by my DNA to replicate itself. Oh well - let’s have some fun! (Granted I’ve never had a child get killed. Shit - maybe I’m just a much doughier version of Rust waiting to happen.)

I just rewatched, and that’s not what he says when he originally lays out the plan to Marty. He says, “We make them an offer, get a line on their supplier, confirm it’s Ledoux, bring him in.”

Okay, weirdly he then goes to the work him over plan. Got it.

This was an interesting article: The One Literary Reference You Must Know To Appreciate True Detective.

And here is the Wikipedia link to the Literary Reference: The King In Yellow.

There’s also the description the little girl gave of the man chasing her through the woods, which sounded rather Lovecraftian/weird fiction to me. The Chambers stuff is what attracted me to the series in the first place - I’m interested to see if they go at all supernatural, or if it’ll just be a cult that believes stuff that isn’t real.

It was mentioned in post 37 of this thread.