# True Detective: Season Two .How is it **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 21, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095 "2015-06-21T20:57:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/181 "2015-07-20T02:28:25Z")
Huh. This is the second week I forgot it was on. I never did bother watching last week’s episode. So I guess this means that I’m officially out. Which stinks, because I could really use a show to look forward to every week. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/182 "2015-07-20T02:29:27Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > I think that was the mayor’s daughter. It was. I’m still enjoying the show… ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/183 "2015-07-20T02:47:58Z")
Actually, I think it’s starting to come together for me, and I thought that tonight it actually got interesting. I’m actually curious now as to what the hell is going on. Was it the mayor’s daughter, or was it Caspere’s daughter? (Caspere was the city manager.) ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/184 "2015-07-20T02:49:30Z")
I’m enjoying the series and will be seeing it through. I think Vaughn’s doing fine. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/185 "2015-07-20T02:50:33Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > Huh. This is the second week I forgot it was on. I never did bother watching last week’s episode. > > So I guess this means that I’m officially out. Which stinks, because I could really use a show to look forward to every week. If you have Comcast, the episodes are available in On Demand. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/186 "2015-07-20T03:34:00Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Was it the mayor’s daughter, or was it Caspere’s daughter? (Caspere was the city manager.) It was the mayor’s daughter, Betty Chessani, played by Emily Rios. > [@](#): > > Velcoro and Bezzerides also question Chessani’s daughter Betty (Emily Rios) in a weed shop, because did you know that they have those in California? She tells the dynamic duo that she doesn’t know who was calling Caspere from her house, but that her dad is “a very bad person,” and her mom died from suicide after being committed to a facility run by Dr. Pitlor aka Rick Springfield. > **[Review & Recap: ‘True Detective’ Season 2, Episode 4 ‘Down Will Come’](https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/review-recap-true-detective-season-2-episode-4-down-will-come-262094/)** > > Review & Recap: 'True Detective' Season 2, Episode 4 'Down Will Come' ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/187 "2015-07-21T12:04:00Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Actually, I think it’s starting to come together for me, and I thought that tonight it actually got interesting. I’m actually curious now as to what the hell is going on. > > Was it the mayor’s daughter, or was it Caspere’s daughter? (Caspere was the city manager.) I thought it was a good ep and would like to take back what I said about last week’s shootout…to the extent it was supposed to be an epic, fog of war, life changing event type of thing. The dialogue is way much at times… ex.“I don’t have the band width for that.” ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/188 "2015-07-21T16:16:34Z")
…I rewatched a few episodes…been liking it more. If TD season 1 hadnt set such a high bar, this season perhaps wouldnt be dissected so much…Colin Farrell seems to be doing a great job with his character. Vince Vaugn Im not sure of, the lines he gets I think only Rust could have pulled off…after 20 beers.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/189 "2015-07-21T17:51:46Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > The dialogue is way much at times… ex.“I don’t have the band width for that.” “It’s like blue balls in your heart.” ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/190 "2015-07-21T18:14:32Z")
So I’m thinking about this, but the absolutely horrible dialogue that Vaughn has to navigate would be GOLD from the mouth of Christopher Walken… but I don’t think that was what the show was going for. ---
**Author:** ![MegaNazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@MegaNazz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaNazz)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/191 "2015-07-24T23:34:08Z")
I’m still enjoying the show a lot, especially Colin Farrell’s character. The shifts in his facial expressions during his confrontation with Rick Springfield’s character last week were pretty rad. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/192 "2015-07-27T06:39:16Z")
I’m one of the unwashed masses who wants pretty people in my movies and tv shows. I have little interest in seeing normal people on the screen. But there’s one important caveat: You can’t have ultra-hot people playing normal people and then use their ultra-hotness as a plot point. It just doesn’t work. We’ve got a ragtag team of three real PO-lice working a case. Thank goodness the lone woman just happens to be hot enough to pull off a “high-end escort” undercover role for a party with the movers and shakers of high society. Phew! It’s just silly. What’s next, they need the motorcycle cop to go undercover as a Calvin Klein underwear model? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/193 "2015-07-27T14:11:55Z")
She was pretty damn hot, wasn’t she? Am I the only one who had to google molly (what they called the drug they gave her)? That was an interesting and disturbing reveal during her drug induced delirium. Was it maybe a little too cliched? A hot woman who can’t form a real adult relationship because she was molested as a child. It seems like every important character in this show has a very dysfunctional past. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/194 "2015-07-27T22:50:05Z")
So that kid doesn’t look like any of his supposed parents. I expected the rapist to be a ginger and he turned out to be sorta hispanic looking instead. So at this point what can the DNA test show other than the kid is his or the wife was cheating? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/195 "2015-07-28T02:23:43Z")
I’m still confused about some things. Did Semyon deliberately contaminate land (he made a remark about sprinkling toxic waste on land)? If so, why? To drive the value down so it could be purchased cheap (in anticipation of the transportation project)? How could the train being built alongside this land increase it’s value? If it’s contaminated then it’s contaminated regardless of the train so it wouldn’t be usable anyway. And I don’t understand the bit about the guy who purchased some of the land (I think it was contaminated land) from Semyon. He was murdered and that seems to create a problem of some kind for Semyon. Why? Was Semyon planning to buy it back or was the guy supposed to do something with it that fit into Semyon’s plans? Is it just that the explanations for these things haven’t been revealed yet, or is it just confusing (at least to me)? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/196 "2015-07-28T02:26:50Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > So that kid doesn’t look like any of his supposed parents. I expected the rapist to be a ginger and he turned out to be sorta hispanic looking instead. So at this point what can the DNA test show other than the kid is his or the wife was cheating? That’s a good point. The kid doesn’t look like any of them, and he’s different enough looking that it seems like the actor must have been specifically chosen to be obviously different. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/197 "2015-07-28T02:45:24Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Did Semyon deliberately contaminate land (he made a remark about sprinkling toxic waste on land)? If so, why? To drive the value down so it could be purchased cheap (in anticipation of the transportation project)? > > How could the train being built alongside this land increase it’s value? If it’s contaminated then it’s contaminated regardless of the train so it wouldn’t be usable anyway. Not sure if he did but someone did, and they did it for the reason you suggest. It’s possible the contaminated land needs to be purchased by the train project directly (to lay tracks) or more likely they can just clean it up for less than the savings of the lowered price. > [@](#): > > And I don’t understand the bit about the guy who purchased some of the land (I think it was contaminated land) from Semyon. He was murdered and that seems to create a problem of some kind for Semyon. Why? Was Semyon planning to buy it back or was the guy supposed to do something with it that fit into Semyon’s plans? > > Is it just that the explanations for these things haven’t been revealed yet, or is it just confusing (at least to me)? This is the one part they’ve made clear: Frank gave dead guy $5 million to purchase land. Dead guy did not officially purchase the land before he died. Frank therefore has nothing to show for his $5 million, which is just gone. Frank has since been looking for the guy who killed the dead guy in order to get his $5 million back. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/198 "2015-07-28T02:55:54Z")
No, I’m talking about a different dead guy. You’re talking about Caspere. Caspere was killed before he could purchase the land for Semyon. That much has been clear from the beginning. The guy I’m talking about didn’t buy land for Semyon, he bought it _from_ Semyon, and then supposedly died in a drunken road accident, except that he was a teetotaler, indicating that the accident was probably staged. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/199 "2015-07-28T05:12:16Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > So that kid doesn’t look like any of his supposed parents. I expected the rapist to be a ginger and he turned out to be sorta hispanic looking instead. So at this point what can the DNA test show other than the kid is his or the wife was cheating? > [@davidm](#): > > That’s a good point. The kid doesn’t look like any of them, and he’s different enough looking that it seems like the actor must have been specifically chosen to be obviously different. Blake, the guy who works for Frank and is supplying the women for the sex parties, has red hair. I’ve been wondering if he’s somehow the father of the kid. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095/200 "2015-07-28T06:18:05Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > No, I’m talking about a different dead guy. You’re talking about Caspere. Caspere was killed before he could purchase the land for Semyon. That much has been clear from the beginning. > > The guy I’m talking about didn’t buy land for Semyon, he bought it _from_ Semyon, and then supposedly died in a drunken road accident, except that he was a teetotaler, indicating that the accident was probably staged. Oh, gotcha. Was the dead guy you’re talking about, was he the husband of the widow Frank and his wife went to console, and offered money to? I didn’t have the first clue who the widow was or what was going on in that scene. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-detective-season-two-how-is-it/723095.md?page=11)