# True story - trying to cheat at the game of life **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2014, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620 "2014-01-01T07:07:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/61 "2014-01-08T06:31:50Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > In addition to whatever psychiatric crisis you’re currently experiencing, you also appear to have major reading comprehension issues. So do you. > [@](#): > > Just because two words are synonymous for one definition, _does not_ mean they share all alternate definitions. I meant **“light-bearing” which is also a meaning of Lucifer** - “a meaning” - not that it is completely identical in all aspects. > [@](#): > > Here’s an example. > > The words “ass” and “butt” are synonyms for the [gluteus maximus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluteus_maximus_muscle). …To swap those two words and say “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s butt” or “I stubbed my cigarette ass out on the sidewalk” is utterly nonsensical (though the latter is much more nonsensical than the former.) Get it? But those two words still share a connection… unlike “Lucent has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Lucifer”. This would be liked saying “ass has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with butt”. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/62 "2014-01-08T06:36:52Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#): > > First of all, it’s a completely illogical giant stretch to think that the name of the company is related to Lucifer just because a minor and unsuccessful product was branded around an Italian poem. You understand Lucent was a large company right? > **[File:Lucent 1997 Ad.jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lucent_1997_Ad.jpg)** > > Lucent\_1997\_Ad.jpg (260 × 382 pixels, file size: 14 KB, MIME type: image/jpeg) > An ad describing aspects of Lucent's Inferno product that seem to have no other source. > The text: Introducing (drumroll) Inferno networking software... a new Bell Labs innovation. First operating system that lets all kinds of devices chat or share info with each other over any network (Internet, telecommunications, LANS, et al). Now the video game can talk to the computer; cell phone can access e-mail; voice mail via ... The ad for Inferno was on the back page of a magazine. It is an entire **Operating System** involving cell phones, PlayStations, TV’s **and** computers - it even had its own web browser. I don’t think it could be called “minor”. Where’s your proof that it is “minor”. It being unsuccessful is irrelevant. > [@](#): > > Second, you really need to read the Divine Comedy. A fictional version of Dante himself is the protagonist and the only other real character is Virgil. Satan is mentioned in a few stanzas in Inferno. Purgatorio and Paradiso aren’t even set in hell. The only way Satan could be less so “the main character” would be if he wasn’t mentioned at all. Thanks for that… but Lucifer not being the main character doesn’t do much to disprove my argument. “Purgatorio and Paradiso aren’t even set in hell” This is irrelevant - I think only the Inferno part of the poem has any connection to the Inferno OS (Dis, Styx, etc) ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/63 "2014-01-08T06:39:02Z")
BTW I thought about the BSD daemon: > **[BSD Daemon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon)** > > The BSD Daemon, nicknamed Beastie, is the generic mascot of BSD operating systems. The BSD Daemon is named after software daemons, a class of long-running computer programs in Unix-like operating systems—which, through a play on words, takes the cartoon shape of a demon. The BSD Daemon's nickname Beastie is a slurred phonetic pronunciation of BSD. Beastie customarily carries a trident to symbolize a software daemon's forking of processes. The FreeBSD web site has noted Evi Nemeth's 1988 remarks a... But guess what - it is connected! Both Inferno and BSD and that Lucent 1997 ad have links to Bell Labs. I guess people would still insist there is no connection. After all agreeing with someone with a mental illness might make it worse somehow… :smack: ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/64 "2014-01-08T07:28:12Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > But those two words still share a connection… This would be liked saying “ass has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with butt”. You are completely missing the point. It’s all about context and precise definition. For example, it’s obvious that [this](http://www.photoss.info/walls/hot_ass-other.jpg) [NSFW] and [this](http://adminpilot.s3.amazonaws.com/bodytuck/files/2012/04/butt1.jpg) [NSFW] are synonymous. Whereas [this](http://graphicriver.net/item/donkey/133677), and [this](http://fleetowner.com/site-files/fleetowner.com/files/uploads/2013/04/Cigarette.jpg) are not. Get it now? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/65 "2014-01-08T07:42:22Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > You are completely missing the point. It’s all about context and precise definition. > > …Whereas [this](http://graphicriver.net/item/donkey/133677), and [this](http://fleetowner.com/site-files/fleetowner.com/files/uploads/2013/04/Cigarette.jpg) are not. Get it now? You’re saying that a donkey/ass is not synonymous to a cigarette butt. But the proper chain of association is this: donkey = ass = butt = cigarette butt. I’m talking about Lucent = lightbearing = Lucifer. There is no middle word that links a donkey to a cigarette butt. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/66 "2014-01-08T08:19:12Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > …The words “ass” and “butt” are synonyms for the [gluteus maximus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluteus_maximus_muscle)… This doesn’t mean donkey (ass) is strongly connected to cigarette butt (butt)… “gluteus maximus” is NOT the meaning of donkey and is NOT the meaning of a cigarette butt. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/67 "2014-01-08T09:25:46Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > “gluteus maximus” is NOT the meaning of donkey and is NOT the meaning of a cigarette butt. > [@JohnClay](#): > > I’m talking about Lucent = lightbearing = Lucifer. :smack: Allow me to correct your mistake – “lucent” does not mean “light-bearing”, nor is it derived from any word that means “light-bearing”. According to Merriam-Webster, the definition of [Lucent](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lucent) is (1) glowing with light : **luminous** , or (2) marked by clarity or translucence : **clear**. Origin: Middle English, from Latin _lucent-, lucens_, present participle of _lucēre_: to shine. Conversely, the entry for [**Lucifer**](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lucifer) reads: (1) used as a name of **The Devil** ; (2) the planet Venus when appearing as the morning star; (3) [not capitalized] a friction match having as active substances antimony sulfide and potassium chlorate. Origin: Middle English, the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, **The Devil** ; from Old English, from Latin, the morning star, from _lucifer_ **light-bearing** , from _luc-, lux_ light + _-fer_ -ferous — more at [LIGHT](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/light). Therefore, “Lucent” and “Lucifer” are in no way synonymous. Your connection is a false connection. You are in error. The Matrix has you. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/68 "2014-01-08T09:41:15Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > :smack: > > Allow me to correct your mistake – “lucent” does not mean “light-bearing”, nor is it derived from any word that means “light-bearing”… > > Therefore, “Lucent” and “Lucifer” are in no way synonymous. Your connection is a false connection. You are in error. The Matrix has you. What matters is what it says here: [http://www.corporatebrandmatrix.com/cases.asp?ca\_id=47&case=Lucent%20Technologies%201996](http://www.corporatebrandmatrix.com/cases.asp?ca_id=47&case=Lucent%20Technologies%201996) “The name “Lucent,” an evocative real word **meaning light-bearing** ” Landor is officially related to Lucent - you are not. So what they say is what matters. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/69 "2014-01-08T09:53:53Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > “The name “Lucent,” an evocative real word **meaning light-bearing** ” > > Landor is officially related to Lucent - you are not. So what they say is what matters. Do you even know who Landor is? Are you really so fixated on some glurgy corporate blurb as to ignore the collective knowledge of tens of thousands of professional lexicographers? Gimme a break, pal. I’ve changed my mind – you don’t need a shrink, you need a remedial English teacher. Hopefully one who’s smokin’ hot. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/70 "2014-01-08T10:25:35Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Do you even know who Landor is? > **[Lucent Technologies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucent#Logo)** > > Lucent Technologies, Inc. was an American multinational telecommunications equipment company headquartered in Murray Hill, New Jersey. It was established on September 30, 1996, through the divestiture of the former AT&T Technologies business unit of AT&T Corporation, which included Western Electric and Bell Labs. > Lucent was acquired by Alcatel SA on December 1, 2006, forming Alcatel-Lucent. > Lucent means "light-bearing" in Latin. The name was applied for in 1996 at the time of the split from ... “The Lucent logo, the Innovation Ring, was designed by Landor Associates” > [@](#): > > Are you really so fixated on some glurgy corporate blurb as to ignore the collective knowledge of tens of thousands of professional lexicographers? Gimme a break, pal. So you don’t think the **designers** of the logo have any relevance? > [@](#): > > I’ve changed my mind – you don’t need a shrink, you need a remedial English teacher. Hopefully one who’s smokin’ hot. If you say so. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/71 "2014-01-08T11:56:55Z")
I can’t believe it! The same guy I was arguing with on Wikipedia has helped me! Here is the latest version of the section about Lucent’s name on Wikipedia: > **[Lucent Technologies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucent#Name)** > > Lucent Technologies, Inc. was an American multinational telecommunications equipment company headquartered in Murray Hill, New Jersey. It was established on September 30, 1996, through the divestiture of the former AT&T Technologies business unit of AT&T Corporation, which included Western Electric and Bell Labs. > Lucent was acquired by Alcatel SA on December 1, 2006, forming Alcatel-Lucent. > Lucent means "light-bearing" in Latin. The name was applied for in 1996 at the time of the split from ... > [@](#): > > Lucent means “light-bearing” in Latin.[3] The name was applied in 1996 at the time of the split from AT&T. > > The name was widely criticised, as the logo was to be, both internally and externally. Corporate communications and business cards included the strapline ‘Bell Labs Innnovations’ in a bid to retain the prestige of the internationally famous research lab, within a new business under an as-yet unknown name.[4] > > This same linguistic root also gives Lucifer, “the light bearer” (from lux, ‘light’, and ferre, ‘to bear’[5]), who is also a character in Dante’s epic poem Inferno. Shortly after the Lucent renaming in 1996, the Plan 9 project released a development of their work as the Inferno OS in 1997.[4][6] This extended the ‘Lucifer’ and Dante references as a series of punning names for the components of Inferno - Dis, Limbo, Charon and Styx. > > When the rights to Inferno were sold in 2000, the company Vita Nuova Holdings was formed to represent them. This continues the Dante theme, although moving away from his Divine Comedy to the poem La Vita Nuova. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/72 "2014-01-08T13:05:44Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > [File:Lucent 1997 Ad.jpg - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lucent_1997_Ad.jpg) > The ad for Inferno was on the back page of a magazine. It is an entire **Operating System** involving cell phones, PlayStations, TV’s **and** computers - it even had its own web browser. I don’t think it could be called “minor”. Where’s your proof that it is “minor”. It being unsuccessful is irrelevant. I don’t mean to be condescending - you clearly don’t know anything about Lucent or large technology companies. If you read the Wikipedia article instead of trying to add your paranoid ideas to it, you’ll notice they’ve employed 165,000 people and have 30,000 patents. They developed or were a major developer of the transistor, lasers, the C programming language, C++, UNIX. 7 Nobel prizes were awarded for work completed by Lucent. The enormous amount of products they’ve created is pretty astounding, and really shows how completely irrelevant Inferno was to Lucent and everyone in the world but you. And it’s not at all irrelevant that it was unsuccessful. UNIX would be just an OS if it wasn’t so wildly successful and the root of so many operating systems we’re still using. > [@JohnClay](#): > > Thanks for that… but Lucifer not being the main character doesn’t do much to disprove my argument. [QUOTE=Canto XXXIV] I lifted up mine eyes and thought to see Lucifer in the same way I had left him; [/QUOTE] and [QUOTE=Canto XXXI] I could have wished to go some other way. But lightly in the abyss, which swallows up Judas with Lucifer, he put us down; Nor thus bowed downward made he there delay, But, as a mast does in a ship, uprose. [/QUOTE] are the only two times the word Lucifer is used in Inferno. Calling him “not the main character” is a pretty massive understatement. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/73 "2014-01-08T23:10:14Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#): > > I don’t mean to be condescending - you clearly don’t know anything about Lucent or large technology companies. If you read the Wikipedia article instead of trying to add your paranoid ideas to it, you’ll notice they’ve employed 165,000 people and have 30,000 patents. > > They developed or were a major developer of the transistor, lasers, the C programming language, C++, UNIX. > > 7 Nobel prizes were awarded for work completed by Lucent. > > The enormous amount of products they’ve created is pretty astounding, and really shows how completely irrelevant Inferno was to Lucent and everyone in the world but you. Inferno has quite a few pages of its own on Wikipedia… in fact it has its own category with 13 pages… > **[Category:Inferno (operating system)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Inferno_(operating_system))** > > For related people see Category:Inferno (operating system) people. > This category has the following 2 subcategories, out of 2 total. > The following 10 pages are in this category, out of 10 total. This list may not reflect recent changes. Do any of Lucent’s other products even have ONE Wikipedia page for them? > [@](#): > > And it’s not at all irrelevant that it was unsuccessful. UNIX would be just an OS if it wasn’t so wildly successful and the root of so many operating systems we’re still using. It being unsuccessful is not relevant to whether there is a connection to Lucent and Lucifer. > [@](#): > > are the only two times the word Lucifer is used in Inferno. Calling him “not the main character” is a pretty massive understatement. Ok but it is well known that he is a character in it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/74 "2014-01-08T23:19:28Z")
Fuzzy Dunlop: “Do any of Lucent’s other products even have ONE Wikipedia page for them?” By that I mean products that were started when Lucent started, in about 1996. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/75 "2014-01-08T23:34:42Z")
Fuzzy Dunlop: About Inferno being a “minor” product: [http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/index.html](http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/index.html) > [@](#): > > …Inferno can run as a user application on top of an existing operating system or as a stand alone operating system. Most of the popular operating systems and processor architectures are supported: > > Host Operating Systems > > - Windows NT/2000/XP > - Irix > - Linux > - MacOS X > - FreeBSD > - Solaris > - Plan 9 > > Supported Architectures > > - ARM (ARM32, Thumb) > - Intel x86 (386 & higher) > - PowerPC > - SPARC > > Inferno also runs as a plug-in under Internet Explorer version 4 and higher. The applications are written in a custom language (Limbo). It uses a virtual machine (Dis). Inferno provides “…all the tools necessary for creating, testing and debugging the applications that run within it…” On its own I don’t see how that could be a “minor” project. You’re saying that compared to the size of Lucent it is minor… but if it is minor then there should be at least 2 or 3 other projects at the time (1996). I think Inferno is one of the most ambitious OS’s at the time. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/76 "2014-01-09T00:30:02Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Fuzzy Dunlop: > “Do any of Lucent’s other products even have ONE Wikipedia page for them?” > > By that I mean products that were started when Lucent started, in about 1996. [Bell Labs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_labs) ==\> Lucent. If you’ve never heard of Bell Labs, your homework assignment starts tonight. Focusing solely on Lucent’s minor setbacks in the late 1990’s is akin to treating Paul McCartney as that funny-looking honky that Michael Jackson occasionally sang duets with. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/77 "2014-01-09T00:33:39Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > [Bell Labs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_labs) ==\> Lucent. > If you’ve never heard of Bell Labs, your homework assignment starts tonight. You may have missed this post of mine… [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16995017&postcount=63](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16995017&postcount=63) ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/78 "2014-01-09T00:39:42Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > …Focusing solely on Lucent’s minor setbacks in the late 1990’s is akin to treating Paul McCartney as that funny-looking honky that Michael Jackson occasionally sang duets with. What you quoted by me: > [@](#): > > Fuzzy Dunlop: > “Do any of Lucent’s other products even have ONE Wikipedia page for them?” > > By that I mean products that were started when Lucent started, in about 1996. Fuzzy Dunlop said the Inferno OS was a minor product (at the time / 1996?). To prove it he should provide evidence of other products that are more ambitious… they should have at least one Wikipedia page if they’re notable enough ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/79 "2014-01-09T00:49:42Z")
“By that I mean products that were started when Lucent started, in about 1996.” I mean products that were around when Lucent started, in about 1996. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620/80 "2014-01-09T02:18:22Z")
> **[Bell Labs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_labs#1990s)** > > Bell Labs\[b\] is an American industrial research and development (R&D) company, currently operating as a subsidiary of Finnish technology company Nokia. With a long history, Bell Labs is credited with the development of radio astronomy, the transistor, the laser, the photovoltaic cell, the charge-coupled device (CCD), information theory, the Unix operating system, and the programming languages B, C, C++, S, SNOBOL, AWK, AMPL, and others, throughout the 20th century. Eleven Nobel Prizes and five Tu... > [@](#): > > AT&T spun off Bell Laboratories, along with most of its equipment-manufacturing business, into a new company named Lucent Technologies I guess there could be a lot of other things that Lucent was doing in 1996… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/true-story-trying-to-cheat-at-the-game-of-life/677620.md?page=5)