# Trump a racist?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 9, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663 "2020-08-09T18:47:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bacon\_Cheeseburger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@Bacon\_Cheeseburger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bacon_Cheeseburger)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/21 "2020-08-09T23:53:18Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> What do you think?

I think he could be a greedy capitalist jerk that wants to maximize profits, and if that means keeping African-Americans out of his development that’s what he’ll do. It’s expedient.

Doesn’t mean he thinks African-American are sub-human.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/22 "2020-08-09T23:54:26Z")

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> [@Bacon\_Cheeseburger](#):
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> Doesn’t mean he thinks African-American are sub-human.-

I think he believes everyone except himself is sub-human.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/23 "2020-08-09T23:56:29Z")

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> [@Bacon\_Cheeseburger](#):
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> Doesn’t mean he thinks African-American are sub-human.

Calling them “niggers” does, as does believing they’re all genetically lazy.

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**Author:** ![Bacon\_Cheeseburger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@Bacon\_Cheeseburger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bacon_Cheeseburger)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/24 "2020-08-09T23:56:49Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I think he believes everyone except himself is sub-human.

Well good, I’ve convinced one person. If he believes everyone is sub-human,he’s not a racist.

(i know Thelmalou doesn’t agree with me)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/25 "2020-08-10T00:42:14Z")

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Calling for a ban on all Muslims entering America was racist as well, assuming you aren’t sticking strict to “races”. He is definitely Islamaphobic.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/26 "2020-08-10T00:44:32Z")

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[quote=“Bacon\_Cheeseburger, post:9, topic:917663, full:true”]I tend to think a “racist” as card carrying KKK member.  
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If that’s what you tend to think, then it happens that uyou tend to think wrongly. Try a different thinking.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/27 "2020-08-10T01:07:22Z")

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> [@Bacon\_Cheeseburger](#):
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> Well good, I’ve convinced one person. If he believes everyone is sub-human,he’s not a racist.
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> (i know Thelmalou doesn’t agree with me)

I’m not sure what you mean. He **is** a racist but his hatred goes way beyond that.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/28 "2020-08-10T01:09:44Z")

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Is that the “I hate everyone equally, so I can’t be a racist” argument?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/29 "2020-08-10T02:44:35Z")

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> [@Bacon\_Cheeseburger](#):
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> Define Racist. I think the term is overused. I can’t refute any of his quotes upthread. I tend to think a “racist” as card carrying KKK member. Black people are a sub-human race of people.

No, the term is not being used incorrectly in reference to the curent president. As all of those quotes above show, he is, in fact, a racist along with just being a bigot in general.

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> White cop kills Black law-abiding citizen, so he’s a racist. Maybe he’s just Alpha male high school jock that ended up in a cop job and is a jerk.

And that is why such things get investigated. However, given the history of race relations in the United States, and especially given the history of how Blacks have been and currently are treated in general by law enforcement, there’s a high possibility that the person shot was shot because of a suspicion the LEO had based solely on the victim’s race.

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> Maybe Trump is just a ignorant jerk.

There is no maybe about that. Each and every day, the current president does what he can to reinforce that fact.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/30 "2020-08-10T02:48:50Z")

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Psst, @Monty, he took his ball and ran off.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-a-racist/917678/](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-a-racist/917678/)

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**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/31 "2020-08-10T02:58:10Z")

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> [@Bacon\_Cheeseburger](#):
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> White cop kills Black law-abiding citizen, so he’s a racist. Maybe he’s just Alpha male high school jock that ended up in a cop job and is a jerk.

Use statistics. If this happened once, it’s probably coincidence. If this keeps on happening, something else is going on. Using violence more often against one ethnic group is racism. If that wasn’t happening, it would “merely” be police brutality, which is still not acceptable.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/32 "2020-08-10T03:15:06Z")

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Can you get back to my OP, and not hijack it, please? or go to your own thread in the BBQ pit?

This isnt what I asked for, I asked for specifica examples, not _your_ opinion of what is a racist. I dont care what your opinion is.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/33 "2020-08-10T03:53:02Z")

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He’s in a better place now…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/34 "2020-08-10T14:54:16Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Is that the “I hate everyone equally, so I can’t be a racist” argument?

In the first place, it’s not an _argument_. In the second and following places it’s “YES, he is a racist, **and** moreover, his bigotry and hatred are not LIMITED to race.”

And no, I don’t know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/35 "2020-08-10T15:16:35Z")

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To be clear, I was referring to what the late departed Bacon Cheeseburger was arguing.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/36 "2020-08-10T15:20:43Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> This is the one I most often cite. He told people of color born in the US(for the most part) to go back to the countries they came from because they disagree with him. There are white representatives/senators who _were_ born outside the US and he has _never_ said that to them.

It’s especially stupid when Trump says this about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Not only was she born in the United States; she was born about ten miles from where Trump himself was born.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/37 "2020-08-10T16:05:29Z")

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Yeah like the Japanese who say “All foreigners are excluded, including whites and blacks, so it can’t be racist.” I’ve heard that one too many times.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/38 "2020-08-10T17:24:12Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s especially stupid when Trump says this about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Not only was she born in the United States; she was born about ten miles from where Trump himself was born.

I think almost all of them were born in the United States. And I believe there are white Democratic representatives or senators born outside the United States he did NOT tell to go back where they came from. There is just something about people of color that makes Trump think “they aren’t really from here”.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/39 "2020-08-10T23:49:21Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> There is just something about people of color that makes Trump think “they aren’t really from here”.

To be fair (I know, I know…), it’s not just Trump. My wife consistently gets “where are you REALLY from?” from her white elderly patients even though she was born in the US and has no accent whatsoever.

Are those patients racist? Well, yes. A little bit, at least. To me the troubling part about Trump’s comments isn’t necessarily the assumption that those women were not from America, but that _because_ they were not from America they didn’t have the same standing to attempt to address American issues or criticize American policy. That’s way more racist, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-a-racist/917663/40 "2020-08-10T23:51:23Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I think almost all of them were born in the United States. And I believe there are white Democratic representatives or senators born outside the United States he did NOT tell to go back where they came from. There is just something about people of color that makes Trump think “they aren’t really from here”.

And there’s something about women that makes Trump lose what little control he has.

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