# Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping him **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 4, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384 "2017-03-04T15:07:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/381 "2017-03-18T13:58:49Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > He kind of mentioned it in the press conference he just had alongside Angela Merkel. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/moneyries/status/842809198597541888/video/1) > > Merkel’s look at him is priceless. “…she was a breath away from muttering, ‘idiot’” ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/382 "2017-03-19T16:34:03Z")
We finally have the kind of faith-based government so many have longed for for so long. Just believe what you’re told, unless you are told there is zero evidence for a spurious claim, in which case you can be certain that source is lying. And you can forget about CNN, MSNBC, the NYT, and all those other “liberal” sources- we already know they’re liberals, amirite? What’s the point in considering whether anything said by these sources conforms to reality when we know in advance that they’re liberals?? No dot-connecting required! Or is the point to expose Fox as being chronically full of shit, to sort of do America a favor even though Fox is supposed to be the GOP propaganda voice? Plus, lots of GOP voters really, really hate Obama. I think their shared hatred of Obama and “liberals” in general is the biggest thing they have in common, kind of the flaming golden calf of a maypole they have been dancing around for 8 years. Now that he’s gone, well, party’s over I guess. _No wait_, shocking new allegations!! 😕 And it is an alternative narrative to the Russian election hacking story. THAT story has evidence to support the narrative, but we can’t believe any of it because, yanno, _the media_. Nope, it is Obama and Britain, Nixonesque 1984 Lex Luthor twirly-mustachioed international spy conspirators- and Trump is the victim! The good news is that Trump is going to go on a series of campaign rallies to get elected and shake things up. No, wait 😕 So there are all these elements to the story, but I feel like I can only perceive the big picture dimly, as through a glass darkly. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/383 "2017-03-19T16:47:32Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > “…she was a breath away from muttering, ‘idiot’” “Dummkopf” more likely. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/384 "2017-03-19T19:25:03Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > “Dummkopf” more likely. “Drumpfkopf,” surely. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/385 "2017-03-19T20:30:13Z")
Comey’s giving public testimony tomorrow regarding whether Trump was wiretapped. What I would really like to hear from Comey is, “There is no evidence of this, because it never happened. It just didn’t. Trump, as president, could have simply picked up a phone to find this out. I think a thorough examination by a good psychiatrist is in order, as the president is clearly not in his right mind and is only growing worse.” That’s what I would do at this point if I were the FBI director. Sure, it would be the end of my career, but so what? Continuing under Trump wouldn’t be worth it, and Comey probably has enough money to live on comfortably without having to work again, and he could probably be an adviser or board member somewhere. Everyone seems to dance around the issue of Traitor Trump’s mental health. Al Franken has questioned it publicly, as has Carl Bernstein, but most public figures don’t seem to want to focus on this. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/386 "2017-03-19T20:35:38Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Comey’s giving public testimony tomorrow regarding whether Trump was wiretapped. What I would really like to hear from Comey is, “There is no evidence of this, because it never happened. It just didn’t. Trump, as president, could have simply picked up a phone to find this out. I think a thorough examination by a good psychiatrist is in order, as the president is clearly not in his right mind and is only growing worse.” > > That’s what I would do at this point if I were the FBI director. Can you rule out that Trump is merely dishonest? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/387 "2017-03-19T20:36:59Z")
Why can’t he be both? But I think he’s mostly insane, in a very literal sense of that word. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/388 "2017-03-19T21:10:48Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Why can’t he be both? But I think he’s mostly insane, in a very literal sense of that word. Yeah, but, see, you said that you’d get up and announce that the president is clearly not in his right mind. Now, granted, maybe he’s not; but maybe he _is,_ and he’s just dishonest. And, sure, maybe he’s _both_ – but I can’t rule out that he’s sane and dishonest, and so I wouldn’t stand up and say he’s clearly not in his right mind. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/389 "2017-03-19T22:09:03Z")
The fear is that he is completely sane, completely honest - and honestly believes all the conspiracies and crap he reads. That’s actually scarier to me - And this is also - as much as we may claim we want it - exactly why we don’t want an ‘everyday joe’ in the position. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/390 "2017-03-20T01:28:36Z")
The Buffoon-in-Chief is clearly not in his right mind, and I’d love to see the FBI director tell Congress that Trump needed his head examined. That’s exactly what I would do at this point, career be damned. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/391 "2017-03-20T04:13:21Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > “Drumpfkopf,” surely. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/392 "2017-03-21T00:17:59Z")
> [@simster](#): > > The fear is that he is completely sane, completely honest - and honestly believes all the conspiracies and crap he reads. IOW, he’s just like his voters? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/393 "2017-03-21T00:44:44Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Trump’s Apology Tour begins! He’s live right now. I wonder why he always holds these things in Florida? I’m beginning to think its because someone will always holds up the flag for him and because the crowd always gets quiet when he [del]putz[/del] putts… ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/394 "2017-03-21T01:28:05Z")
Garry Kasparov had a funny tweet: “The house is on fire, Trump is running around with a box of matches, and the GOP demands to know who called the fire department.” > ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/395 "2017-03-21T02:38:55Z")
If in the movie version of this, the president in the midst of these investigations had his Sec State [skip a NATO meeting to visit Russia](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tillerson-idUSKBN16S04I?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social), you would think it was way too unrealistic, right? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/396 "2017-03-21T02:46:23Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > If in the movie version of this, the president in the midst of these investigations had his Sec State [skip a NATO meeting to visit Russia](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tillerson-idUSKBN16S04I?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social), you would think it was way too unrealistic, right? Shows you what idiots Trump and Tillerson are at international relations. You go to the NATO meeting so you have something to tell Putin. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/397 "2017-03-21T02:54:05Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > If in the movie version of this, the president in the midst of these investigations had his Sec State [skip a NATO meeting to visit Russia](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tillerson-idUSKBN16S04I?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social), you would think it was way too unrealistic, right? I wrote about this in another thread. Minor point of clarification: Tillerson is skipping the NATO summit to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping in Florida. Tillerson will go suck Putin’s dick later in the month. Not that that’s a whole lot better. Coupled with Tillerson’s possibly accidental commitment today to treat China with “mutual respect” (Chinese code for “stay out of our way”), this would seem to signal that we’re entering an era in which China as well as Russia are more important to us than NATO. Yippee. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/398 "2017-03-21T03:04:58Z")
I predict Trump will soon ask for Comey’s resignation since his testimony today was not very loyal. He will then appoint Corey Lewandowski, Sean Hannity, or Ivanka to be the new FBI Director. We need a Trumpist running the FBI to stop those darn leaks and #MAGA, bigly! ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/399 "2017-03-21T03:26:48Z")
_The Onion_ reports that aides had to wrestle a drill from Trump’s hand today as he tried to remove an Obama listening device from his skull. > **[Aides Wrestle Drill From Trump’s Hands As He Tries To Remove Obama Listening...](https://www.theonion.com/aides-wrestle-drill-from-trump-s-hands-as-he-tries-to-r-1819579741)** > > WASHINGTON—Rushing toward the president as he pressed the eight-inch bit into his temple, several White House aides managed to wrestle a drill from Donald Trump’s hand Monday while he attempted to remove Obama’s listening device from his skull.... I believe video of the incident has been leaked: [Pi Max Drills His Head - YouTube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mM7qIU4C7VI) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/400 "2017-03-21T05:16:19Z")
So we have a president who has been decisively caught lying, AND HE KEEPS ON DOING IT SHAMELESSLY. Jesus, this is a mobbed-up 70-year-old, not some teenager. Enough with the tweets already. Mother Fuck. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384.md?page=21)