# Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping him **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 4, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384 "2017-03-04T15:07:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/161 "2017-03-06T05:45:32Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > …and immediately went out and _hired script writers_ so they could include the ‘recorded wiretaps’ in his daily ego stroking briefings. Make that _“hired script wruters from SNL”_ and you’re probably on to something. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/162 "2017-03-06T05:46:36Z")
I can’t imagine [this Roger Stone meltdown on Twitter](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a53606/roger-stone-tweets/) is going to help 45 with his situation. > [@](#): > > Obama responsible for illegal surveillance of @RealDonaldTrump - must be charged, convicted and jailed. > [@](#): > > @RVAwonk you stupid stupid bitch - never denied perfectly legal backchannel to Assange who indeed had the goods on #CrookedHillary. and this directed at CNN commentator Ana Navarro: > [@](#): > > Really? @ananavarro is fat, stupid and fucking Al Cardenas Aside from the asshole factor here, Stone basically admits to contact with Assange for 45’s campaign. That won’t go over well with the rest of the GOP. What’s that saying about rats and sinking ships? ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/163 "2017-03-06T05:49:27Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > If Trump’s phone was tapped (whether he was named in the warrant or not) then Trump’s phone was tapped. Wouldn’t you say? Sure. And by the same tautological token… If Trump’s phone was not tapped (whether he was named in the warrant or not) then Trump’s phone was not tapped. Wouldn’t _you_ say? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The PotUS has made another extraordinary claim. ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/164 "2017-03-06T06:19:39Z")
Interesting theory… [https://twitter.com/MediaJuggernaut](https://twitter.com/MediaJuggernaut) FACTS: ~Hillary Knew About Trump Server. ~Bill Secretly Met w/Lynch. ~Lynch Approved #Wiretap. Mystery Solved. You’re Welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/165 "2017-03-06T12:25:15Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Interesting theory… > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MediaJuggernaut) > FACTS: > ~Hillary Knew About Trump Server. > ~Bill Secretly Met w/Lynch. > ~Lynch Approved #Wiretap. > Mystery Solved. > You’re Welcome. Of course _you’re_ not saying that you think this is what happened, or even that it is very likely. No-_You_ just think it is “interesting”, right? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/166 "2017-03-06T13:08:21Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Interesting theory… > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MediaJuggernaut) > FACTS: > ~Hillary Knew About Trump Server. > ~Bill Secretly Met w/Lynch. > ~Lynch Approved #Wiretap. > Mystery Solved. > You’re Welcome. I’d call all three of those ‘facts’ into question. Bill’s meeting certainly wasn’t ‘secret.’ In **fact** , there’s no evidence of any of those things happening except in some gullible farmer’s fevered imagination. But feel free to provide **credible** cites. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/167 "2017-03-06T13:18:36Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > If Trump’s phone was tapped (whether he was named in the warrant or not) then Trump’s phone was tapped. Wouldn’t you say? Trump has a history of making evidence-free claims about Obama. So far this is just another one. Maybe at some point he’ll offer evidence, but that would be something new for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/168 "2017-03-06T13:36:14Z")
Man, it’s amazing all the things that happened in that conversation between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/169 "2017-03-06T13:36:55Z")
Trump is supposed to be a big straight-talker, right? Well, then he should put his money where is mouth is. Put up or shut up. Shit or get off the pot. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/170 "2017-03-06T13:44:28Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > This guy is so stupid, he’s backed himself into a corner in an oval office. Yep, wins the thread. > [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > #blatantlystolen Google is working this morning. Your move. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/171 "2017-03-06T14:02:07Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > If Trump’s phone was tapped (whether he was named in the warrant or not) then Trump’s phone was tapped. Wouldn’t you say? There is long and extensive record of Trump lying about various things. Are you in the habit of giving known liars the benefit of the doubt? What makes you think this time will be different? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/172 "2017-03-06T14:08:33Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Interesting theory… > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MediaJuggernaut) > **FACTS** : > ~Hillary Knew About Trump Server. > ~Bill Secretly Met w/Lynch. > ~Lynch Approved #Wiretap. > Mystery Solved. > You’re Welcome. (bolding mine) I continue to see need for an organization that acts as a sort of social service to abused words. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/173 "2017-03-06T14:10:57Z")
[WH spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders, yesterday](https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/838429108807729153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw): “If this happened, once again, this would be the greatest abuse of power and overreach that’s probably ever occurred in the executive branch.” And if a frog had wings, it wouldn’t bump its tail. What else is new, Sarah? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/174 "2017-03-06T14:11:00Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > (bolding mine) > > I continue to see need for an organization that acts as a sort of social service to abused words. …and punishment for the abusers. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/175 "2017-03-06T14:19:44Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Interesting theory… > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MediaJuggernaut) > FACTS: > ~Hillary Knew About Trump Server. > ~Bill Secretly Met w/Lynch. > ~Lynch Approved #Wiretap. > Mystery Solved. > You’re Welcome. Holy crap, I thought the web design of the mid-nineties with the visual assault of page upon page of dancing babies, flying toasters, and “peanut butter jelly time” was over. Now I see the photon barf has just changed to red type in lots of different sizes and the frowny face emoticon. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/176 "2017-03-06T14:24:05Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > That Trump is dishonest has never been in dispute. But it does not account for this latest weirdness. No, it’s true – either Obama did something really, really bad, not to mention completely out of character, or Trump is Loony Tunes. Occam’s razor, my friend, Occam’s razor. You cite Occam’s Razor and yet fail to state the most obvious reason Trump would say this; it distracts from his own problems, and his followers will believe it. The truth of it’s not relevant. He may not believe it. But it distracts from the Russian thing, and Trumpists now all believe that Obama illegally wiretapped Trump Tower. That is the explanation, and is far simpler and more logical than Obama actually do it or Trump being paranoid. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/177 "2017-03-06T14:25:22Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Interesting theory… > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MediaJuggernaut) > FACTS: > ~Hillary Knew About Trump Server. > ~Bill Secretly Met w/Lynch. > ~Lynch Approved #Wiretap. > Mystery Solved. > You’re Welcome. What mystery? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/178 "2017-03-06T14:37:56Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > What mystery? The mystery of whether or not Pearl Clutching Provocateur actually knows the definition of the word “fact.” ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/179 "2017-03-06T14:57:25Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > What mystery? “Is this really happening or have I lost my mind?” Unfortunately, **PCP** ’s so-called answer to this mystery only deepens the enigma. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384/180 "2017-03-06T15:04:34Z")
It seems to me that PCP’s philosophy is that if you can take any Democrat’s actions and view them through whatever prisms are necessary so that they look immoral and/or illegal, then that excuses any Republican from anything he could possibly do. If you hear rumors of a Democrat jaywalking, than any and all crimes by Republicans pale into insignificance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-him/781384.md?page=10)