# "Trump acted that way at the debate because he was debating a woman." **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 28, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103 "2016-09-28T05:12:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/41 "2016-09-29T21:33:27Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > One review I read claimed that when Hillary addressed him as “Donald”, he appeared to take offense. (The exchange occurs starting at 4:10 [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQFGTDFvMSc). He responds by looking at her with a sneering strained squint, which made a few in the audience laugh.) > > The review claimed further that the whole “Secretary Clinton/Is that OK/I want you to be happy” snark later in the debate was in response to that offense. That sounds about right. I’ve listened to more of Trump’s speechifying than is good for one’s mental health, and every single time he relates an anecdote in which someone approaches to speak to him, he quotes that person as addressing him as “Mr. Trump…” I interpret that as “everyone’s a subordinate on Planet Trump”. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/42 "2016-09-29T21:49:59Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > “Liz, great palace you have here. Fantastic castle, wonderful castle, a bit old, you know, it’s, it’s old, maybe needs some work, but I love it, love this castle, we’re building a property here in London, it’s the best property, the best, I’ve got the best property In London, and it’s going to be fantastic. It’s, you know, like my golf course in Scotland, the best, that’s in England too, and you’d love it, because it’s a fantastic property.” I like monarchs who don’t lose their empires. Ones who do are losers. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/43 "2016-09-29T22:40:52Z")
I can’t believe that the quip about the 400-pound hacker hasn’t gotten more airplay. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/44 "2016-09-29T22:42:38Z")
That may hit too close to home for too many Netizens. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/45 "2016-09-30T00:20:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He didn’t seem to have a problem interrupting the moderator either, but certainly there was much about his presentation that smacked to me of sexism. Well, Lester Holt is a…well, YOU know. > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I can’t believe that the quip about the 400-pound hacker hasn’t gotten more airplay. Like me, every 400 lb geek heard it, loud and clear. You don’t fuck with us. C’mon, Putin. Just TRY it. And we do it for free. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/46 "2016-09-30T11:33:32Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > The way he drew out “Secretary” sounded to me like he was devaluing her not as Secretary of State but as one of the secretaries he’s more familiar with, the ones who bring coffee and take shorthand. I think he just has difficulty with polysyllabic words. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/47 "2016-09-30T11:34:25Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I think he just has difficulty with polysyllabic words. Bigly. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/48 "2016-09-30T14:39:22Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > That sounds about right. I’ve listened to more of Trump’s speechifying than is good for one’s mental health, and every single time he relates an anecdote in which someone approaches to speak to him, he quotes that person as addressing him as “Mr. Trump…” Absolutely no question whatsoever to me that addressing him as “Donald” was a critical part of the plan. She never called him by a diminutive (Don, Donny) or anything insulting, so you can’t say she wasn’t respectful. Since he holds no office deserving of a title and there’s precedent for calling an opponent by their first name in debates, you can’t say she did anything wrong. But the familiarity and refusal to use his last name implies him lacking in importance. Conversely, Trump bungled by referring to her as “Secretary Clinton.” While it is technically good protocol to do so on first address (after that it’s unnecessary to keep saying “Secretary”) it was an error. He should have called her “Hillary” to make it sound more even. Few people would have noticed the technically deficient protocol, and in fairness he does know her personally. But by doing so, while she called him Donald, it reinforced the notion of her superiority. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/49 "2016-09-30T15:21:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He certainly was when he was referring to Carly Fiorina’s face. Hey, facts is facts. Am I sexist if I say water is wet? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/50 "2016-09-30T16:24:13Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Bigly. I thought it was that, too, but I think he’s saying “big league”. That seems to one of his pet phrases. _She’s got knockers, all right. Big league knockers!_ ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/51 "2016-09-30T16:26:40Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I thought it was that, too, but I think he’s saying “big league”. That seems to one of his pet phrases. _She’s got knockers, all right. Big league knockers!_ wrong ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/52 "2016-09-30T18:38:56Z")
I hear “big league.” ---
**Author:** ![Totenfeier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@Totenfeier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Totenfeier)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/53 "2016-09-30T19:44:11Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Trump treats everyone like shit. Women, he treats like shit that has holes in it where he likes to stick his penis. You know, I believe he has one of those little tiny chubby ones hidden under a roll of fat. What? It’s a legitimate Presidential issue, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103/54 "2016-09-30T19:59:12Z")
> [@Totenfeier](#): > > You know, I believe he has one of those little tiny chubby ones hidden under a roll of fat. > > What? It’s a legitimate Presidential issue, isn’t it? I think you mean Presidential tissue. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-acted-that-way-at-the-debate-because-he-was-debating-a-woman/767103.md?page=2)