# Trump administration considered releasing illegal immigrants in sanctuary cities **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 12, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453 "2019-04-12T19:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/1 "2019-04-12T19:36:15Z")
While this is, obviously, a Trump political ploy, it seemed rather ironic for [Democrats to condemn the proposal.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-level-inhumanity-apos-democrats-034120778.html) Sanctuary cities, by definition, are there to offer sanctuary. This would be like a pro-life adoption center complaining about pro-choicers directing pregnant women to bring their unwanted babies to the center for adoption. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/2 "2019-04-12T19:46:54Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > While this is, obviously, a Trump political ploy, it seemed rather ironic for [Democrats to condemn the proposal.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-level-inhumanity-apos-democrats-034120778.html) Sanctuary cities, by definition, are there to offer sanctuary. This would be like a pro-life adoption center complaining about pro-choicers directing pregnant women to bring their unwanted babies to the center for adoption. That’s yet another misunderstanding of the purpose of “sanctuary city” policies. But the Trump administration thanks you for buying into their consistent and intentional misrepresentation of the concept. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/3 "2019-04-12T19:52:15Z")
Sounds like wins all around except for Dem pols. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/4 "2019-04-12T19:53:45Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > That’s yet another misunderstanding of the purpose of “sanctuary city” policies. But the Trump administration thanks you for buying into their consistent and intentional misrepresentation of the concept. What is the purpose of sanctuary cities? I thought I was deeply in favor of the concept but maybe I misunderstood. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/5 "2019-04-12T19:56:32Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > …This would be like a pro-life adoption center complaining about pro-choicers directing pregnant women to bring their unwanted babies to the center for adoption. No it wouldn’t. It would be more like someone complaining that human beings were being treated by a racist fuck as political bombs. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/6 "2019-04-12T19:57:56Z")
> [@](#): > I don’t see what the Democrats are objecting to. They believe that illegal immigrants are no more likely to commit crimes than native born citizens, that it is morally wrong to assist the federal government in deporting them, and that immigrants seeking asylum should be allowed to do so within the US. Now all of a sudden they don’t want these decent, hard-working, law-abiding people in their own cities where the local government can refrain from acting immorally. Sounds like a win-win-win for them, if they really think that. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/7 "2019-04-12T19:59:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t see what the Democrats are objecting to. They believe that illegal immigrants are no more likely to commit crimes than native born citizens, that it is morally wrong to assist the federal government in deporting them, and that immigrants seeking asylum should be allowed to do so within the US. Now all of a sudden they don’t want these decent, hard-working, law-abiding people in their own cities where the local government can refrain from acting immorally. Sounds like a win-win-win for them, if they really think that. > > Regards, > > Shodan Do you object to this, or more obfuscating and pretending your party is still the party it was before Trump? [https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/04/12/politics/trump-cbp-commissioner-pardon/index.html](https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/04/12/politics/trump-cbp-commissioner-pardon/index.html) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/8 "2019-04-12T20:01:54Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > What is the purpose of sanctuary cities? I thought I was deeply in favor of the concept but maybe I misunderstood. > **[Sanctuary city](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city)** > > A sanctuary city is a municipality that limits or denies its cooperation with the national government in enforcing immigration law. > A city's council and mayor will usually declare itself a sanctuary city and subsequently enact measures and policies that are welcoming and favorable to migrants. Sanctuary cities undertake the responsibilities of receiving and processing an influx of migrants, and providing services and resources for them to acclimate and live in the country and communities in whi... “Leaders of sanctuary cities say they want to reduce fear of deportation and possible family break-up among people who are in the country illegally, **so that such people will be more willing to report crimes, use health and social services, and enroll their children in school.** ” (bolding mine) These policies help prevent/minimize shadowy ghettos full of people terrified to cooperate with police and other legitimate officials in the normal day-to-day operations of society. For example, rapists would love to have a sub-population scared to report crimes to the police – great targets who they can victimize again and again with little fear of their crimes being reported. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/9 "2019-04-12T20:02:36Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t see what the Democrats are objecting to. They believe that illegal immigrants are no more likely to commit crimes than native born citizens, that it is morally wrong to assist the federal government in deporting them, and that immigrants seeking asylum should be allowed to do so within the US. Now all of a sudden they don’t want these decent, hard-working, law-abiding people in their own cities where the local government can refrain from acting immorally. Sounds like a win-win-win for them, if they really think that. > > Regards, > Shodan To go back to abortion as an analogy, there’s always a big difference between what one party says they want and what they actually want. Many pro-lifers will say that “pregnant women ought to carry their babies to term and give up for adoption rather than aborting,” but if they actually saw such a thing come to fruition, they probably wouldn’t like what they saw. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/10 "2019-04-12T20:02:46Z")
You do realize that if people are “released” from custody, they don’t need “sanctuary” anymore. They would be brought to those cities with the purpose of overwhelming the services available with large numbers, ensuring that the maximum number of people are harmed in the process. All in an effort to punish people who disagree with Trump’s infantile immigration policy. Oh, and the immigrants? Who gives a blind fuck what happens to them? We’ll use them and their suffering as weapons to hurt our political opponents. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/11 "2019-04-12T20:04:27Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t see what the Democrats are objecting to. Maybe the idea of treating desperate men, women, and children like political pawns? That’s what I object to. I generally think we should treat human beings with dignity. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/12 "2019-04-12T20:04:58Z")
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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/13 "2019-04-12T20:06:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > [Sanctuary city - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city) > > “Leaders of sanctuary cities say they want to reduce fear of deportation and possible family break-up among people who are in the country illegally, **so that such people will be more willing to report crimes, use health and social services, and enroll their children in school.** ” (bolding mine) > > These policies help prevent/minimize shadowy ghettos full of people terrified to cooperate with police and other legitimate officials in the normal day-to-day operations of society. For example, rapists would love to have a sub-population scared to report crimes to the police – great targets who they can victimize again and again with little fear of their crimes being reported. Ok so it is exactly what I thought it was. What is the problem with taking migrants there? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/14 "2019-04-12T20:07:11Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Can you explain how this would hurt Dems? Ask Trump. It was his plan. Does it matter that the plan is stupid and his own administration told him so? Or does it matter that the President dreams up stupid plans that he imagines will harm those who didn’t vote for him? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/15 "2019-04-12T20:09:18Z")
I would be totally, 100% happy with more migrants who are applying for asylum coming here to DC. However, the idea of people who have fled horrible violence being treated like pariahs is deeply offensive, and further evidence that Trump has a severe personality disorder that approaches psychopathy. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/16 "2019-04-12T20:09:39Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Maybe the idea of treating desperate men, women, and children like political pawns? That’s what I object to. I generally think we should treat human beings with dignity. YMMV. Yeah that aspect is unsavory. But I think they would prefer to be free in these cities than locked up like Trump does or deported like Obama would have done, but I can’t be sure without asking them. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/17 "2019-04-12T20:11:37Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > While this is, obviously, a Trump political ploy, it seemed rather ironic for [Democrats to condemn the proposal.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-level-inhumanity-apos-democrats-034120778.html) By the way, did you read your cite? Based on your post, I’m pretty sure you did not. Might want to do that once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/18 "2019-04-12T20:14:49Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I would be totally, 100% happy with more migrants who are applying for asylum coming here to DC. > > However, the idea of people who have fled horrible violence being treated like pariahs is deeply offensive, and further evidence that Trump has a severe personality disorder that approaches psychopathy. Will the Dem House forward such a pro-migrant proposal now that they know Trump is up for it? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/19 "2019-04-12T20:14:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Maybe the idea of treating desperate men, women, and children like political pawns? That’s what I object to. I generally think we should treat human beings with dignity. YMMV. Currently, they are being detained in jails and the like. Is that better somehow? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/20 "2019-04-12T20:16:51Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Currently, they are being detained in jails and the like. Is that better somehow? No, but there are other options aside from treating desperate people like crap. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453.md?page=2)