# Trump administration considered releasing illegal immigrants in sanctuary cities **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 12, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453 "2019-04-12T19:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/21 "2019-04-12T20:21:07Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Will the Dem House forward such a pro-migrant proposal now that they know Trump is up for it? Are you asking if House Dems agree that migrants should be treated like pawns? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/22 "2019-04-12T20:21:44Z")
Yeah those option are not open. Trump is willing. Will Dems be open? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/23 "2019-04-12T20:22:49Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Are you asking if House Dems agree that migrants should be treated like pawns? No I’m asking if they will push to have them released into these cities? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/24 "2019-04-12T20:23:07Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yeah those option are not open. Trump is willing. Will Dems be open? I realize that libertarianism long ago determined that “If we can’t beat racism, let’s be racists too,” but I don’t think that’s how the Democratic Party approaches its disagreements with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/25 "2019-04-12T20:23:53Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yeah those option are not open. Trump is willing. Will Dems be open? Can you make the point you’re trying to make more clearly? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/26 "2019-04-12T20:24:10Z")
What is really surprising is to see now the conservatives of the SDMB tossing even ICE under the bus just to follow what the Mango Mussolini thinks is a good idea. > **[White House proposed releasing immigrant detainees in sanctuary cities,...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-targeting-political-foes/2019/04/11/72839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.89ed898f72d1)** > > The political retribution was proposed in November and again in February, but immigration authorities rejected the idea as inappropriate, rebuffing the White House. > [@](#): > > The White House told U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement that the plan was intended to alleviate a shortage of detention space but also served to send a message to Democrats. The attempt at political retribution raised alarm within ICE, with a top official responding that it was rife with budgetary and liability concerns, and noting that “there are PR risks as well.” > > After the White House pressed again in February, ICE’s legal department rejected the idea as inappropriate and rebuffed the administration. > > A White House official and a spokesman for DHS sent nearly identical statements to The Post on Thursday, indicating that the proposal is no longer under consideration. > > “This was just a suggestion that was floated and rejected, which ended any further discussion,” the White House statement said. So, on top of everything, a moot point, and moot points seem to be seen as great progress by some followers of Trump. In reality it looks like a very pathetic way to score political points. And I think that instead of calling Trump 'Mango Mussolini" I think that now Trump is more like the former dictator of Portugal, Salazar, who had lost his mind after a stroke and continued to his end to his days to think that his terrible orders and declarations were being carried out while his staff kept him happy by telling him that they were or still being worked out. ‘Cross our hearts! Your super duper orders will be done! We are working on it, ignore what you hear from your enemies, your law officers in reality are doing whatever you say…’ ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/27 "2019-04-12T20:36:44Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I realize that libertarianism long ago determined that “If we can’t beat racism, let’s be racists too,” but I don’t think that’s how the Democratic Party approaches its disagreements with Trump. I have no idea what you are talking about, but it sounds like the Dems will not push to have the migrants released into these cities. Am I right on that at least? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/28 "2019-04-12T20:38:49Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Can you make the point you’re trying to make more clearly? I think it is a good idea to release migrants into sanctuary cities. If Trump is up for it, even for nefarious purposes, I think the best pro-migrant policy available would be to adopt the policy. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/29 "2019-04-12T20:40:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > What is really surprising is to see now the conservatives of the SDMB tossing even ICE under the bus just to follow what the Mango Mussolini thinks is a good idea. > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-targeting-political-foes/2019/04/11/72839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75\_story.html?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.89ed898f72d1](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-targeting-political-foes/2019/04/11/72839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.89ed898f72d1) > So, on top of everything, a moot point, and moot points seem to be seen as great progress by some followers of Trump. In reality it looks like a very pathetic way to score political points. > > And I think that instead of calling Trump 'Mango Mussolini" I think that now Trump is more like the former dictator of Portugal, Salazar, who had lost his mind after a stroke and continued to his end to his days to think that his terrible orders and declarations were being carried out while his staff kept him happy by telling him that they were or still being worked out. ‘Cross our hearts! Your super duper orders will be done! We are working on it, ignore what you hear from your enemies, your law officers in reality are doing whatever you say…’ So you are taking the pro-ICE position? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/30 "2019-04-12T20:42:40Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I think it is a good idea to release migrants into sanctuary cities. If Trump is up for it, even for nefarious purposes, I think the best pro-migrant policy available would be to adopt the policy. I think guns save lives. If Obama is up for it, even for nefarious purposes, I think the best pro-gun policy available would be to hand out guns at Republican rallies. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/31 "2019-04-12T20:49:50Z")
Oh FFS! I’m all for taking in immigrants to sanctuary cities. But it’s going to take a little more planning than just taking busloads of them and dropping them off on the city streets. If we’re going to do this, let’s do it responsibly. And let’s treat these immigrants with the dignity and respect they deserve. Call me crazy, but I don’t think Trump is willing to do those things. He’d much rather cause chaos in the very country he was sworn to protect. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/32 "2019-04-12T20:51:59Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I think guns save lives. If Obama is up for it, even for nefarious purposes, I think the best pro-gun policy available would be to hand out guns at Republican rallies. Is this a joke? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/33 "2019-04-12T20:52:31Z")
But not rejected. Trump just embraced it. From just four hours ago: “Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only…” > ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/34 "2019-04-12T20:53:27Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Is this a joke? No. It’s an obviously disingenuous argument that lacks nuance and yet parallels perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/35 "2019-04-12T20:53:33Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Oh FFS! I’m all for taking in immigrants to sanctuary cities. But it’s going to take a little more planning than just taking busloads of them and dropping them off on the city streets. Ok. So keep them in cages while it is straightened out, or continue deportations until then? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/36 "2019-04-12T20:53:41Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > So you are taking the pro-ICE position? You know, gotchas would be useful for you if they could your talking point to not be a pathetic one. _ **In this specific case** _, yes. ICE was right, like the the blind squirrel that finds a nut. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/37 "2019-04-12T20:54:42Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > No. It’s an obviously disingenuous argument that lacks nuance and yet parallels perfectly. Except Obama wouldn’t support that and Republicans wouldn’t have a huge problem. Here, Trump could support it and the Dems have a huge problem. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/38 "2019-04-12T20:55:23Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > But not rejected. Trump just embraced it. > From just four hours ago: > “Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only…” > [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116742280919044096](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116742280919044096) As I said, Salazar is back! ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/39 "2019-04-12T20:55:46Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > You know, gotchas would be useful for you if they could your talking point to not be a pathetic one. > > _ **In this specific case** _, yes. ICE was right, like the the blind squirrel that finds a nut. Ok. I think ICE is wrong 100% of the time and favor abolition. Which of the other options on the table do you favor? Incarceration or deportation? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453/40 "2019-04-12T20:57:05Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > So you are taking the pro-ICE position? Have you ever tried responding to what people actually say, instead of rewording things to fit your little script? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-administration-considered-releasing-illegal-immigrants-in-sanctuary-cities/832453.md?page=3)