# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\]

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2021 "2025-10-19T22:17:01Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> The Turning Point podcast is still called the Charlie Kirk Show. I wonder how long substitute hosts are going to keep that up? I’m sure they are all in-fighting to grab that profitable position.

There was a morning DJ from Dallas who built up a national radio show, he died in _ **2013** _, and his name still adorns the show. So the other hosts probably don’t care.

> **[KiddNation](https://www.kiddnation.com/)**
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> The Kidd Kraddick Morning Show

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2022 "2025-10-21T14:52:52Z")

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A post was split to a new topic: [Sock posts](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sock-posts/1024166)

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Would that it had been Captain Crunch. His cereal is _nasty_.

[It wasn’t for lack of trying.](https://youtu.be/WxKSnrUstDE?si=FiOJ4xCa4OvKtA0R)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2024 "2025-10-23T19:03:27Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Would that it had been Captain Crunch. His cereal is _nasty_.

You people say the most hurtful things. 😛

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2025 "2025-10-24T05:57:24Z")

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[This iw what happens when one (or many) buy into magaflatearther nonsense.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/website-promised-unmask-charlie-kirk-202714168.html) (The **bolding** is mine; the irony is just great.)

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> A website that promised to unmask critics of[conservative activist Charlie Kirk](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/maga-targets-prestigious-christian-private-141205532.html) took tens of thousands of dollars in cryptocurrency donations before going offline, according to a report.
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> The site “Expose Charlie’s Murderers” was launched hours after Kirk’s assassination on September 10 and pledged to name and shame those who spoke out against him to pursue [“the largest firing operation in history.”](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/teachers-firefighters-other-workers-celebrated-214016071.html)
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> It asked supporters to contribute toward “a highly sophisticated enterprise system that will be impervious to Leftist attacks,” and directed them to [cryptocurrency blockchains](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/donald-trump-joe-biden-washington-karoline-leavitt-white-house-b2851103.html), the technology behind bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, according to _Drop Site._
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> The website’s anonymous developers raised more than $30,000 from supporters between September 12 and 14, according to the outlet.
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> **Now the domain [www.charliesmurderers.com](http://www.charliesmurderers.com) has gone dark.**

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2026 "2025-10-24T11:20:27Z")

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It’s extremely eager to grift MAGA. The whole movement is basically defined by people who are easily grifted. All my life ethics / non-harm principles have been far too strong for me to ever consider scamming someone, but I don’t know, the ethics of scamming people who are only scammed because they want to harm others don’t seem so bad. And it seems _so easy_, they’re practically begging to get scammed at all times.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2027 "2025-10-24T12:13:13Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I don’t know, the ethics of scamming people who are only scammed because they want to harm others don’t seem so bad. And it seems _so easy_, they’re practically begging to get scammed at all times.

To a degree, we are who we pretend to be, at least inasmuch as others would describe our character. A troll pretending to be an asshole is still an asshole.

For instance, there’s a MAGA merch stand outside a gun shop I drive by once a month or so, and I half wondered if they were just grifting. Plus, up until recently all the merch was just generic “Go Trump!” stuff, so if you want to make money like that, it’s not a bad way to go.

But the last time I drove by their stand, they were selling an “I have good genes!” shirt, which is too far for me. I no longer consider them just businesspeople. Same goes for the rhetoric one would use to get donations from Kirk fans.

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> And it seems _so easy_, they’re practically begging to get scammed at all times.

Either begging to get scammed, or in it _to_ scam. People who have either bought the Big Lie over the 2020 election or people who know it’s a lie and are supporting a fascist _knowing he’s a fascist_ and imagining that they’ll be on top of the oppression pyramid.

MAGA all think they are wolves, making it that much easier for the actual wolves in MAGA to convince the sheep they can be in on the feast too if they arrive pre-sheered and with just a touch of salt.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2029 "2025-10-28T12:53:50Z")

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Well said.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2030 "2025-11-01T00:27:23Z")

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The Widow Kirk sure didn’t take long to set her sights on someone new:

> **[Erika Kirk And JD Vance's Embrace Is Going Viral For Awkward Reasons](https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/erika-kirk-jd-vance-embrace-viral)**
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> "I do see some similarities of my husband in JD," Erika said at an event in honor of Charlie Kirk.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/2031 "2025-11-01T00:38:12Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> The Widow Kirk sure didn’t take long to set her sights on someone new:

Lonely and ambitious. A powerful combination.

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Also probably facist.

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Lonely and ambitious. A powerful combination.

And possessing extremely bad choice.

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Probably aiming for future FLOTUS status.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
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She is definitely more trump’s type. Maybe Vance’s old wife could be made ambassador somewhere.

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I think JD is planning ahead for when his current wife is deported.

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Well, that’s sensible, what with her being a sepia-toned furriner type with a furriner name. The Widow Kirk is a much better all-American image for a future President.

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Maybe Vance’s old wife could be made ambassador somewhere.

Never mind, too much Halloween candy.

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I can’t wait until Ericka Kirk finds out what JD’s version of the casting couch is … allegedly

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Somehow I’m thinking that’s on the plus side for Ericka.  
(Sex being a disgusting sin that’s only for procreation . . . at most.)

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