# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/21 "2025-09-10T19:49:47Z")
He used similar points to the right wingers in my family. It’s annoying that nut scratchers like him get popular. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/22 "2025-09-10T19:50:08Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > He was supposedly shot from a building 200 yards away. I don’t think that’s a difficult distance for someone who knows what they’re doing, but it’s not some hack picking up a gun for their first time, right? I won’t link it here but the video shows a perfect shot in the carotid - whoever shot him (and they apparently have a suspect in custody) knew what they were doing. No way he survived that. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/23 "2025-09-10T19:53:33Z")
It is really, really worth pointing out again what **mozchron** linked to upthread. From Kirk in 2023: > I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/24 "2025-09-10T19:55:15Z")
BTW, Overall I do say that this is not good, as we should try to always follow the law and todrive public opinion against the intolerant like C. Kirk. But I do think that when the reprehensible comes with lines like this one: > Charlie Kirk, the conservative founder and president of [Turning Point USA](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/turning-point-usa), said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America’s reality. > > Kirk’s comments come about one week after three children and three adults were killed at the Christian Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee. I do think that people that excuse mass killings, [or support people in power that do it](https://freedom.press/the-classifieds/administration-kills-11-provides-no-legal-rationale/), do deserve to get at least hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/25 "2025-09-10T19:55:18Z")
Shooter is an old white guy. Best case scenario is MAGA infighting or Epstein conspiracy. Then generic crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/26 "2025-09-10T19:56:17Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Would to be wrong of me to offer thoughts and prayers? It depends upon which deity you are offering them to. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/27 "2025-09-10T19:56:35Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > He was supposedly shot from a building 200 yards away. I don’t think that’s a difficult distance for someone who knows what they’re doing, but it’s not some hack picking up a gun for their first time, right? Probably not, or at least spent enough time to make sure it was sighted in (or just got really lucky). I am somewhat morbidly curious what kind of weapon was used. Mostly because it seems most of the time these sorts of attempts have been made using something like an AR-15 pattern in .223 when I would think something like a deer rifle in 30-06 or .308 would be more likely to accomplish what the shooter wants in a single shot. Which is likely all he’ll get if he’s trying to snipe. I can’t stand Charlie Kirk. He also didn’t deserve to get sniped. And now everything in the country is going to get just that much worse as the reactions occur. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/28 "2025-09-10T19:58:35Z")
Yeah–the last major shooting of a fascist leader was quickly followed by Musk pouring hundreds of millions into Trump’s campaign and getting the fascist elected. Anyone who thinks assassination of a couple of fascists is going to be helpful has lost the thread. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/29 "2025-09-10T19:59:04Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Shooter is an old white guy. Actually, I’m questioning anything we’re seeing right now. I mentioned above one report that the shooter was 200 yards away in a building, and I’m also seeing a reporter on site said it came from an older white guy in the audience. I think the news will be chaotic for a few hours. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/30 "2025-09-10T20:00:17Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Anyone who thinks assassination of a couple of fascists is going to be helpful has lost the thread. Agreed. I don’t give a shit if Kirk got offed in the abstract but the downstream consequences and crackdown is not going to be helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/31 "2025-09-10T20:01:02Z")
That’s fair. Usually I think 2-3 days before things are sorted. Unusually tense social dynamic has me jumping the gun. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/32 "2025-09-10T20:01:44Z")
Moderating: > [@ricepad](#): > > Apologies, and mods please delete. We don’t delete posts as a rule, except in extreme circumstances. I’m glad you caught yourself as to which forum you’re in. It’s good to get in the habit of checking before letting fly. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/33 "2025-09-10T20:04:35Z")
Thoughts and prayers? It’s God’s will. Who are we to question God’s infinite wisdom? Clearly, this is a blessing. USA! USA! USA! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/34 "2025-09-10T20:05:13Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > I don’t give a shit if Kirk got offed in the abstract but the downstream consequences and crackdown is not going to be helpful. Yeah, same. Kirk was (hopefully was) an absolute trash human and absent any other context I’m glad he’s (apparently) dead. _However,_ given the political climate, there’s a meaningful chance this is the tipping point for net-negative consequences. Difficult calculus. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/35 "2025-09-10T20:07:18Z")
The guy they arrested was a late middle-aged (white hair - what he had left) White guy. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/36 "2025-09-10T20:07:40Z")
Goddamn! I tripped across the video on Twitter. I don’t think ever seen anything like it and I am shaken. And shaking. It is disturbing and I feel like crying right now. I’ve got to go to work in a half an hour and I’m going to have trouble doing it. Holy shit. It’s bad. Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/37 "2025-09-10T20:08:52Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Anyone feel like opening a Pit thread so we can offer our…_condolences? thoughts? prayers?_ …with the full emotional punch they deserve? I posted about this on the Omni us Stupid MFers thread. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/38 "2025-09-10T20:08:59Z")
I’m sorry, @Jack_Batty. But thanks for the warning. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/39 "2025-09-10T20:12:56Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Shooter is an old white guy. Best case scenario is MAGA infighting or Epstein conspiracy. Then generic crazy. Worst-case scenario is that it is a liberal professor, and, unfortunately, old white guys on college campusses are overwhelmingly liberal professors. This administration had _already_ pretty much declared war on academia, with Kirk as their surrogate. Turning him into a martyr is going to turbo-charge that. I expect whatever acts of destruction they were already plotting will unfold over days and not months. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/40 "2025-09-10T20:14:17Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > old white guys on college campusses are overwhelmingly liberal professors. Though possibly less true in Utah. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=3)