# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/461 "2025-09-11T19:52:40Z")
A conservative commentator on Twitter wants to use the murder as an excuse to crush his enemies. > ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/462 "2025-09-11T19:54:57Z")
That’s not the first time I’ve seen someone compare Kirk’s shooting to the Reichstag fire, but it’s kind of wild seeing it come from someone on the _right_. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/463 "2025-09-11T19:57:42Z")
I’m just tired of people going straight to the Reichstag when the correct reference is clearly Horst Wessel. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/464 "2025-09-11T19:58:51Z")
They didn’t pay _that_ close attention in history class. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/465 "2025-09-11T19:59:36Z")
If he was actually shot by someone on the left, sure, but the folks making the Reichstag comparison are insinuating a very different motive. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/466 "2025-09-11T20:04:32Z")
I understand the shooter was heard to shout “_From Hell’s heart I st– wait, what do you mean, ‘different Kirk’?_” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/467 "2025-09-11T20:05:42Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > And a single shot weapon isn’t a poor choice, as you’re unlikely to get off more than one shot in that situation He shoulda used a [Lee–Enfield](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_minute). ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/468 "2025-09-11T20:08:03Z")
I just unfriended someone on FaceBook because they have been posting all kinds of crap about the Charlie Kirk “assassination”, which was obviously done by a “leftist”. This included a drawing of Kirk being held by Jesus, referring to him as a “true and faithful servant” (or some such drivel). ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/469 "2025-09-11T20:08:26Z")
> Charlie Kirk being assassinated is the American Reichstag fire. Thanks Matt, you’ve made it so very clear that you are a Nazi. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/470 "2025-09-11T20:09:28Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I didn’t, did I? Look dude, your routine of low-effort doomposting is way past the point of being played out. If you’re going to do that, at least try to put some substance into it. And yes, if you say “it’s already happened”, then fucking tell me what you’re referring to unless you’re just wandering around spouting mysterious prophecies like some kind of doomsaying magic 8-ball. It’s old. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/471 "2025-09-11T20:13:11Z")
He should seek work at The Onion: > **[Witnesses Assumed Charlie Kirk Shooter Was Just Ordinary Gunman On School Campus](https://theonion.com/witnesses-assumed-charlie-kirk-shooter-was-just-ordinary-gunman-on-school-campus/)** > > OREM, UT—As law enforcement officials search for a person of interest in the assassination of 31-year-old Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk, witnesses on the scene at Utah Valley University admitted Thursday they had assumed the shooter was... > “When that first shot rang out, we all figured it was going to be a run-of-the-mill mass shooting” said UVU junior Michael Tompkins, who explained that when students spotted a man clad in black and carrying a rifle on a roof overlooking the crowd, they had no reason to suspect anything unusual. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/472 "2025-09-11T20:20:25Z")
If anyone wants a quick summary of who Charlie Kirk was as a person this article is worth a look I think: - [No, I won’t be shedding any tears for Charlie Kirk](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/09/no-i-wont-be-shedding-any-tears-for-charlie-kirk/) > Charlie Kirk believed that gay people [should](https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1800678317030564306) be stoned to death, that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was [a “huge mistake,”](https://www.wired.com/story/charlie-kirk-tpusa-mlk-civil-rights-act/) that we should legally be allowed to [whip foreigners](https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-calls-shooting-and-whipping-migrants-southern-border-if-you-enter-we-have) in the U.S., that Muslims only move here to [destroy the country](https://5pillarsuk.com/2025/09/10/islamophobic-u-s-commentator-charlie-kirk-shot-dead-at-university-event/), that American Jews [encourage](https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-jews-are-experiencing-hate-we-white-people-have-been-experiencing-last) anti-whiteness, that men [should](https://bsky.app/profile/ripperoni.com/post/3lyjloionwc2f) physically attack transgender people, that all women [should submit](https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-tells-taylor-swift-submit-your-husband-and-have-ton-children) to their husbands, and that Black professionals [“steal” their jobs](https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/charlie-kirk-legacy) from more qualified white people. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/473 "2025-09-11T20:20:41Z")
> **[Alan Berg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg)** > > Alan Harrison Berg (January 1934 – June 18, 1984) was an American talk radio show host in Denver, Colorado. Born to a Jewish family, he had outspoken atheistic and liberal views and a confrontational interview style. Berg was assassinated by members of the white supremacist group The Order, which believed in killing all Jews and sending all black people to Africa. Those involved in the killing were part of a group planning to kill prominent Jews such as Berg. Two of Berg's killers, David Lane ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/474 "2025-09-11T20:22:16Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Oh boy, yes, he looks very ordinary for a random guy in Utah. He doesn’t look like he’s ever been to any boot camp either. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/475 "2025-09-11T20:31:23Z")
I saw one cartoon of a microphone on the ground, and Kirk asking Jesus, “Do you think someone will pick it up?” and Jesus saying “Oh yes, Kirk, someone will.” ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/476 "2025-09-11T20:31:57Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > It’s interesting because the upcoming question is going to be ‘Where did he get the rifle?’ and ‘It was a family hand-me-down from the 50s.’ and ‘He bought it last week.’ have very different implications. I probably should be ashamed in even bringing it up. I read somewhere that ‘The Greatest Generation’ were avid hunters and shooters and that the biggest American gun problem, even more than ghost guns, were the hand-me-down guns of the estates of ‘The Greatest Generation’ and of ‘The Boomers’ who are dying off. Yes, that’s a hijack and probably inappropriately mentioned in this thread in retrospect. Sorry I mentioned it. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/477 "2025-09-11T20:32:43Z")
Here we go (surprising no one): > **[Right-Wing Activists Are Targeting People for Allegedly Celebrating Charlie...](https://www.wired.com/story/right-wing-activists-are-targeting-people-for-allegedly-celebrating-charlie-kirks-death/)** > > Extremists and an anonymously run website are posting identifying details about people accused of celebrating Charlie Kirk’s murder online. Some of those targeted are now getting death threats. > Far-right influencers and violent extremists are posting identifying details about people they view as celebrating or glorifying the murder of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. The campaign has been swift and widespread and has already led to at least one person losing their job and others receiving death threats. > > The people posting the identifying information include Chaya Raichik, who runs the hugely influential, hate-filled LibsofTikTok account on X, Trump-whisperer Laura Loomer, and former Proud Boy leader Enrique Tarrio. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/478 "2025-09-11T20:37:11Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > the correct reference is clearly Horst Wessel. Horst Wessel lied. Just like Kirk and trump. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/479 "2025-09-11T20:39:33Z")
The author says they feel sad for Kirk’s children. On the other hand, they will not grow up under the guidance of an utter turdsack. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/480 "2025-09-11T20:40:12Z")
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