# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\]

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\
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Democratic Texas State Representative James Talarico speaks on the assassination.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UMsrceww8tA/maxresdefault.jpg "James Talarico's remarks on Charlie Kirk's death") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMsrceww8tA)

That’s right. Jesus tells us to love our neighbor. Not just the ones who look like us and agree with us.

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_“You can safely assume you’ve created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.”_

–Anne Lamott

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/483 "2025-09-11T20:55:39Z")

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And yet, Trump and others **willfully** ignore that Democrats did condemn the killing, No matter, MAGAs just declare that Democrats should be targeted.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/484 "2025-09-11T21:05:34Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> > [@Chefguy](#):
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> > And a single shot weapon isn’t a poor choice, as you’re unlikely to get off more than one shot in that situation
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> He shoulda used a [Lee–Enfield](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_minute).

MLK Jr. was killed with a 30-06, but unlike Oswald’s Carcano, James Earl Ray’s Remington was pump-action so he wouldn’t need to cycle a bolt and take his eyes out of the sights. The king of Portugal was killed with a rifle - a semiautomatic that also didn’t require reacquiring the sights.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/485 "2025-09-11T21:14:40Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Apparently law enforcement is now walking back / caveating the trans messaging on the casings. Again, probably best to wait for actual information not someone that leaks to Stephen Crowder.

Good luck getting those worms back into the can.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/486 "2025-09-11T21:17:41Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Good luck getting those worms back into the can.

Hey, let’s leave Kennedy out of this… /s

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/487 "2025-09-11T21:23:39Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> they will not grow up under the guidance of an utter turdsack.

Their mom married Kirk once; no reason to assume her second choice would be better, nor that she herself is a non-turdsack.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/488 "2025-09-11T21:50:36Z")

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That’s a great quote.

And to further make me hate being a Yankees fan, the Orange Asshole himself will be at the stadium tonight for a 9/11 remembrance. The only time he could go there and not get booed right out of the Bronx.

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**Author:** ![deltogre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deltogre/32/5041_2.png) [@deltogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltogre)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/489 "2025-09-11T21:51:18Z")

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“Bore.”

eta: Like a rifle bore. God, sometimes I suck at humor.

I call those times “When I am fucked up.”

I’ll see myself out…

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According to a count down window on MSNBC today, there was an announcement of some kind scheduled for 1:45 MT. That was changed to a sheriffs dept announcement at 2:00 MT then cancelled in favor of a presser with Kash Patel when arrives from DC. So, they may have good news that Patel wants the credit for, or bad news he wants to spin.

What’s the image on the suspects shirt?

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/491 "2025-09-11T22:01:17Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> That’s a great quote.
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> And to further make me hate being a Yankees fan, the Orange Asshole himself will be at the stadium tonight for a 9/11 remembrance. The only time he could go there and not get booed right out of the Bronx.

“I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.  
The evil that men do lives after them;  
The good is oft interrèd with their bones.  
So let it be with Caesar.” - Shakespeare

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**Author:** ![deltogre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deltogre/32/5041_2.png) [@deltogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltogre)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/492 "2025-09-11T22:02:30Z")

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This is where my entire arsenal, minus my 870 Express, came from. Every fucking one of them are untraceable.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/493 "2025-09-11T22:19:36Z")

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Arsenal? Er, got some plans, friendo?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/494 "2025-09-11T22:26:35Z")

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I’m trying to understand why the gunman didn’t dismantle his weapon and let it be found intact.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/495 "2025-09-11T22:28:17Z")

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Eh, wipe it and toss it and you can’t get caught with it.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/496 "2025-09-11T22:29:35Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I’m trying to understand why the gunman didn’t dismantle his weapon and let it be found intact.

Aside from giving investigators a fun puzzle to solve, what is that meant to accomplish?

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/497 "2025-09-11T22:29:40Z")

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I’m just shocked that - with a picture now being circulated- we don’t yet know his name.

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I’m trying to understand why the gunman didn’t dismantle his weapon and let it be found intact.

Quick escape, the leaving of messages on the bullets.

The FBI reports having one palm print from near the scene, we’re about to see some poor building custodian get hauled in.

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He could complicate their task. Discarding pieces here and there in many different locations. Although, of course, I’m sure they could probably trace it by serial numbers on one component or whatnot.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/500 "2025-09-11T22:36:35Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> He could complicate their task. Discarding pieces here and there in many different locations.

That requires running around in public with pieces of the firearm you used to commit a very high profile crime.

Might as well just break into a nearby steel foundry and toss the gun in a vat of molten steel, like at the end of Terminator 2.

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