# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/501 "2025-09-11T22:37:21Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Eh, wipe it and toss it and you can’t get caught with it. Someone took the cannoli… ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/502 "2025-09-11T22:39:34Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That requires running around in public with pieces of the firearm you used to commit a very high profile crime. Yeah…it would seem to me Assassin-101 is toss the weapon after the shot and leave the area ASAP. Presumably the second class is about making sure the weapon can’t be traced to you before it is brought the the shooting place (use gloves when handling it/wipe it down after and so on). (I’m on a list now…aren’t I?) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/503 "2025-09-11T22:41:28Z")
Wouldn’t it be something if one of the results of Trump appointing unqualified douchebags to important positions is that they can’t catch this fucker? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/504 "2025-09-11T22:43:08Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I’m just shocked that - with a picture now being circulated- we don’t yet know his nam You lack the imagination of MAGA. Nobody recognizes him because that time anyone saw him, he was…a woman! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/505 "2025-09-11T22:43:15Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I’m just shocked that - with a picture now being circulated- we don’t yet know his name. I’m reading in a few places that they _do_ have his name now, but haven’t released it or put out a warrant yet (presumably because a warrant would make the name public record). ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/506 "2025-09-11T22:46:05Z")
A warrant can be issued in secret (not public knowledge). Once the warrant is executed (they use it to arrest the person) then it becomes public. But so what at that point? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/507 "2025-09-11T22:46:28Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I’m reading in a few places that they _do_ have his name now I’m taking about internet denizens. If he had been caught cheating on his wife, they’d have him ID’d by now, I’m sure of it. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/508 "2025-09-11T22:50:38Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Wouldn’t it be something if one of the results of Trump appointing unqualified douchebags to important positions is that they can’t catch this fucker Kash almost immediately tweeted that a suspect was in custody. 6 minutes later, the local authorities stated the suspect had been released. It took Kash another 90 minutes to acknowledge that fact. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/509 "2025-09-11T22:51:21Z")
Why pics of one person in a hallway? Is that inside the building he was on? Why would they think he’s the shooter in the first place? Maybe it’s a girl? A student at UVU or not? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/510 "2025-09-11T22:57:12Z")
> [@deltogre](#): > > This is where my entire arsenal, minus my 870 Express, came from. Every fucking one of them are untraceable. Why would you post this here? Don’t you know that these posts are both forever and admissible in court…? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/511 "2025-09-11T22:59:37Z")
Wearing sunglasses and a baseball cap inside? Seems a (weak) attempt at hiding who they are. I 100% get that is very, very, very weak evidence. I can’t quite make out the graphic on the t-shirt. Political message? Although again, if you are an assassin don’t wear a t-shirt with a political message and don’t wear dark sunglasses and look shady. You’d want to look like any other student. I dunno. (now I am really on a list…also played too much “Hitman” PC game) ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/512 "2025-09-11T23:00:25Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Why pics of one person in a hallway? It’s probably a freeze frame from a surveillance video, and the best angle that shows the person’s face. > [@Locrian](#): > > Is that inside the building he was on? Yeah, I think so. They probably have video tracking movement showing him getting in position and then retreating. > [@Locrian](#): > > Why would they think he’s the shooter in the first place? I’m guessing that this was the person who was on the roof where the bullets came from. > [@Locrian](#): > > Maybe it’s a girl? Maybe. > [@Locrian](#): > > A student at UVU or not? I haven’t heard anything on that. I’m guessing no; you don’t need to be a student to walk onto campus, and a lone nutter may have dropped out. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/513 "2025-09-11T23:03:18Z")
Whomever it is, they are a loon and we can’t expect logical behavior.aa ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/514 "2025-09-11T23:04:50Z")
Thank you for the answers, but unless this person was coming in from a door that led to the roof, I can’t see any connection to “that’s the shooter.” I’ve read reports the shooter jumped from the roof then just bled into the crowd of spectators. So some young looking teen doesn’t seem to be a “person of interest” to me. Unless they saw something or knew something. What a mess! ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/515 "2025-09-11T23:07:09Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > unless this person was coming in from a door that led to the roof That’s been my assumption. How else would the guy have been able to access the roof? I’m assuming the building is more than one story, and that a person attempting to scale the building would have certainly attracted attention ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/516 "2025-09-11T23:08:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If I was a blue state governor, I’d comply and publicly announce that it was to mourn the school shooting victims in Colorado. The governor of my state (who I sort of work for indirectly), I am pleased to say, did in fact direct flags to be at half mast, but said that it was also to remember the victims of the 9/11 attack. So, while he did technically comply with the request, he also stole the moment a bit from Kirk’s martyrdom, and in a way that even the right can’t really complain too much about. The guy is more clever than I could be. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/517 "2025-09-11T23:09:58Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I can’t quite make out the graphic on the t-shirt. Political message? > [@Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/445): > > On another site someone posted a picture of what looks to be the same kind of t-shirt for sale. [[image] ](https://i.imgur.com/j2coaKK.png) It appears to be this kind of t-shirt with an image of an eagle over a flag that says “Land of the Free, Home of the Brave”. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/518 "2025-09-11T23:10:17Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > (I’m on a list now…aren’t I?) You are on The List… …of people that watch too much L&O and CSI franchise shows. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/519 "2025-09-11T23:11:47Z")
(I don’t know why this is tagging @Atamasama) I found this regarding the manhunt > [@](#): > > At the [construction] site, Dylan Hope, an electrician, told USA TODAY that his colleague, who was operating an excavator Wednesday, Sept. 10, when the shooting took place, believes he spoke with the gunman. Hope said his colleague spoke with a young man who appeared on the site and asked if he could walk through it. > > “The alleged shooter, before any of the sirens or people were walking out, talked to the excavator guy,” Hope said. “The excavator guy stopped him because we’re not supposed to have people on here.” > > The man told the construction worker he was “trying to get home safe” after a shooting, Hope said. > > Police officers later appeared with a canine and tracked the shooter through the site and onto a property next door, Hope said. He didn’t know if the shooter parked a vehicle near the construction site. > **[FBI recovers rifle used in Charlie Kirk shooting, traces path through woods —...](https://apple.news/Aa7dx9oGnSCuBX733kfKc0A)** > > FBI investigators released limited details about the bolt-action rifle recovered in Utah. They're tracing a path the alleged shooter fled on. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/520 "2025-09-11T23:13:41Z")
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