# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/41 "2025-09-10T20:14:47Z")
It was in Arizona I believe ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/42 "2025-09-10T20:16:10Z")
Utah Valley University, Orem, UT ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/43 "2025-09-10T20:17:09Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > old white guys on college campusses are overwhelmingly liberal professors Need to remember, however, that it happened at Utah Valley University. Not Berkley or Oberlin. ETA: ninja’d by a couple of other posters ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/44 "2025-09-10T20:17:54Z")
Yup you’re correct, sorry for the misinformation ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/45 "2025-09-10T20:18:20Z")
The Times is reporting that the person taken into custody is _not_ the shooter. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/46 "2025-09-10T20:18:53Z")
This sure is going to put a damper on 9/11… ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/47 "2025-09-10T20:19:57Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Though possibly less true in Utah. Utah Valley is a state university, not a religious school, and professors at state universities in red states are just like professors everywhere else. (Cite: I am one.) One of the reasons _why_ universities were Kirk’s favorite targets is that they’re generally the only institutions upholding a distinctly liberal ethos and set of values in those parts of the country (and, heaven forbid, exposing impressionable young people to those values!) ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/48 "2025-09-10T20:23:39Z")
John Donne was wrong. Not every death diminishes me. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/49 "2025-09-10T20:25:57Z")
Avoiding any moving pictures on Twitter whatsoever at the moment … but the consensus from several sources is that Kirk has died. ---
**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/50 "2025-09-10T20:26:48Z")
The White House probably is appreciating this as a distraction from Epstein, too. It’s a very timely “look over there!” thing for them. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/51 "2025-09-10T20:27:13Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I tripped across the video on Twitter. Your comment led me there, and I saw the close up video. He’s hit just to the side of his Adam’s Apple. His head immediately drops back, limp, while blood pours out of the wound. Yeah, very graphic. And almost certainly lethal. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/52 "2025-09-10T20:28:00Z")
Speaking of Trump, this aged like milk: [https://www.npr.org/2025/07/02/nx-s1-5440343/trump-administration-atf-jobs-gun-restrictions](https://www.npr.org/2025/07/02/nx-s1-5440343/trump-administration-atf-jobs-gun-restrictions) > The Trump administration has set its sights on restructuring the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, including [plans to loosen](https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/atf-launches-new-era-reform) gun regulations and [significantly reduce](https://www.justice.gov/media/1403736/dl) its budget. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/53 "2025-09-10T20:28:09Z")
Pours out? Explodes out. I still see it when I close my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/54 "2025-09-10T20:28:26Z")
I have not watched the video, but the comments of everyone on Reddit are to the effect that the blood loss was unsurvivable. ---
**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/55 "2025-09-10T20:31:00Z")
Now that he’s dead, I hope that people don’t forget how terrible he was. Sometimes it’s okay to say bad things about dead people. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/56 "2025-09-10T20:31:10Z")
Too bad thet couldn’t mop it (blood) up and put it to good use. \>\>\>\>handbasket accelerating\>\>\>\> ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/57 "2025-09-10T20:32:01Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > I won’t link it here but the video shows a perfect shot in the carotid - whoever shot him (and they apparently have a suspect in custody) knew what they were doing. No way he survived that. This wasn’t a carotid shot, or blood would’ve spurted all over the tent. The heavy blood draining and instant loss of consciousness points to jugular vein. I disagree that this was 100% unsurvivable. An injury to a single jugular vein is survivable with prompt treatment. Not highly survivable, but survivable. I wouldn’t put money on a full recovery of brain function though. > [@Velocity](#): > > I have not watched the video, but the comments of everyone on Reddit are to the effect that the blood loss was unsurvivable. People always overestimate blood loss because blood looks so bloody when it’s on the wrong side of the skin. It’s too soon to say. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/58 "2025-09-10T20:32:20Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Your comment led me there, and I saw the close up video. We don’t have confirmation of whether he survived or not, but I’m not sure he survived the four second video, much less until now. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/59 "2025-09-10T20:32:40Z")
For comparison, MLK Jr. was struck in the jaw, the bullet tore downward through his neck and out his shoulder. He was pronounced dead one hour and four minutes later. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/60 "2025-09-10T20:34:37Z")
Oh, he’s dead. We’re just awaiting the formal confirmation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=4)