# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/761 "2025-09-12T20:20:51Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Spare the crocodile tears I like: ‘I don’t feel any joy about Kirks’ passing, neither do I feel remorse. Kind of like road kill’ ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/762 "2025-09-12T20:26:11Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Political violence is being done every day in this country with the campaign to aggressively detain and deport immigrants who have not committed any violent or felony crimes, many of whom are actually in compliance with previous immigration and asylum requirements. Donald Trump, of course, has openly and enthusiastically advocated for political violence against opponents for going on a decade. It is high time we started talking about political violence in all contexts. Yes! Thank you for clarifying this. I was referring to the kind of political violence that most of the privileged mean when they use the phrase: “famous political figure gets assaulted/killed.” It was Jamelle Bouie (and now you) who reminded me that the majority of political violence is being carried out every day by the powerful against the powerless, and by and large the media barely gives a shit. Ezra Klein of all fucking people wrote a very kind op-ed about Charlie Kirk, an evil, hateful fascist whose life was gleefully, smirkingly devoted devoted to expanding oppression and human suffering. Where is the outpouring of grief for those victimized by everyday political violence?? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/763 "2025-09-12T20:36:35Z")
I can think of someone stupid enough. Remember, “Terry Terry Terry, do you want me to show you the pitcha’?” ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/764 "2025-09-12T20:41:43Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > So, will the father get the reward for turning him in? Why wouldn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/765 "2025-09-12T20:46:01Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Ignore what? A man’s neck exploding all over social media? They’ll ignore who killed him, and pivot the narrative to what a wonderful man Charlie Kirk was. They want to turn him into the conservative version of MLK. Just wait for October 14 (Kirk’s birthday) – I predict a presidential order declaring it a national holiday going forward. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/766 "2025-09-12T20:48:59Z")
So the father is a III%er and a LEO? Exactly the kind of person who would teach his son that violence is the effective way to deal with troublesome issues. I guess if there is anything to be positive about, it is this, the way in which the amped up RW is eating itself and looking stupid doing it. The downside, of course, is that the rest of us have to dodge their crossfire. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/767 "2025-09-12T20:49:16Z")
They and their cult leader have the memory of hamsters. They’ll be onto the next thing this time next week. Meanwhile, I hear the Epstein files might have been lost in the confusion in Utah. Somebody should see to those… ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/768 "2025-09-12T20:51:00Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Just wait for October 14 (Kirk’s birthday) – I predict a presidential order declaring it a national holiday going forward. Followed by a law against anyone who takes offense at a day in his celebration… ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/769 "2025-09-12T20:51:31Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > So the father is a III%er and a LEO? Exactly the kind of person who would teach his son that violence is the effective way to deal with troublesome issues. You’ll never guess who they support. > **[Charlie Kirk Suspect’s Grandma Says Family Is All MAGA](https://www.thedailybeast.com/charlie-kirk-suspects-grandma-says-family-is-all-maga/)** > > Tyler Robinson, the prime suspect for Charlie Kirk’s assassination, comes from a proud MAGA family, according to his grandmother. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/770 "2025-09-12T20:53:31Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > the Epstein files might have been lost in the confusion in Utah. 2073 headline: Box Found in Remote “Maze” Section of Canyonlands National Park Contains Files Relating to Forgotten Political Scandal. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/771 "2025-09-12T20:55:55Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > They and their cult leader have the memory of hamsters. And the credulousness of… well, I can’t really think of anything more thoughtlessly credulous than a MAGA supporter, so analogy is kind of failing me here, but Robinson is going to continue to be painted as a radical leftist, and Trump’s base will accept it unquestioningly, entirely without regard to the facts of the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/772 "2025-09-12T21:02:33Z")
The Guardian quotes a former friend that says the suspect is very far on the left and the only one in the family on the left. Doesn’t explain on of what the supposed beliefs are. > **[Charlie Kirk shooting: suspect set to face aggravated murder charge - live...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah?page=with:block-68c47b768f086519d327114d#block-68c47b768f086519d327114d)** > > Tyler Robinson, 22, expected to be charged on Tuesday; family friend contacted authorities after being told he had shot rightwing activist Suspect the guy is mistaken, but thought I’d have the information linked here. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/773 "2025-09-12T21:15:36Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > So the father is a III%er and a LEO? Exactly the kind of person who would teach his son that violence is the effective way to deal with troublesome issues. The police department he was supposedly a 27 year veteran of has said he actually has no connection with them and that “people have the same names”. I am not sure whether he is a 3%er or not, all I’ve seen on that is the tweet where he’s wearing a black shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/774 "2025-09-12T21:19:00Z")
Because they might claim that the father would use the money to aid the son, and reward money cannot be used to aid the perpetrator. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/775 "2025-09-12T22:02:59Z")
Like Dump or his brown shirts would pay anyone - WAIT - ~~treasonous~~ patriot Ashli Babbitt’s family got paid. Epstein files! ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/776 "2025-09-12T22:16:54Z")
Utah Governor Spencer Cox: “And for 33 hours, I was praying that if this had to happen here that it wouldn’t be one of us – that somebody drove from another state, somebody came from another country. Sadly, that prayer was not answered the way I hoped for just because I thought it would make it easier on us if we could just say, ‘Hey, we don’t do that here, Utah is a special place.” [https://amp.fresnobee.com/opinion/article312085972.html](https://amp.fresnobee.com/opinion/article312085972.html) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/777 "2025-09-12T22:18:44Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > “And for 33 hours, I was praying that if this had to happen here that it wouldn’t be one of us – that somebody drove from another state, somebody came from another country. Sadly, that prayer was not answered the way I hoped for just because I thought it would make it easier on us if we could just say, ‘Hey, we don’t do that here, Utah is a special place.” “I was hoping it was someone like…I don’t know…oh, hey, Kash, do you want to come up here and talk for a minute?” ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/778 "2025-09-12T22:27:16Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Sadly, that prayer was not answered the way I hoped for just because I thought it would make it easier on us What a perfectly Republican thing to say. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/779 "2025-09-12T22:34:01Z")
I’ve seen it. It happened WHILE he was being asked about shootings. Whether the suspect could actually hear what he said, I do not know. ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/780 "2025-09-12T23:40:40Z")
They were hoping a gay, transgender, card carrying Democrat of colour was the shooter, not a gun crazed, Republican, white Morman family’s kid. That Utah governor was reduced to tears over that turn of events. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=40)