# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/81 "2025-09-10T20:55:15Z")
Today as death date put on Wiki ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/82 "2025-09-10T20:56:01Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Goddamn! I tripped across the video on Twitter. I don’t think ever seen anything like it and I am shaken. And shaking. It is disturbing and I feel like crying right now. I’ve got to go to work in a half an hour and I’m going to have trouble doing it. To me the Budd Dwyer video is much more disturbing. (Maybe you’ve never seen it.) . ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/83 "2025-09-10T20:56:34Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I must be in the minority, I’ve never heard of him. I don’t care how noxious his views were, if he’s got small children then it’s a shame for them to likely lose a parent. OTOH, I have heard of several cases of kids escaping the homes and the church communities from religious extremists that sound a lot like guys fleeing North Korea. The celebrity angle makes it worse as there are more pressures for the kids to be perfect models of behavior. In the possible case that they were not treated that way, I hope the kids are not pushed to preach more of the same ideology as their parents. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/84 "2025-09-10T20:56:37Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Yeah, this. Get used to seeing Charlie Kirk as glorious christ-like martyr for the Maga cause, as that’s all we are going to be seeing for the foreseeable future So yeah… > _The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us_ Donald Trump says Charlie Kirk has died after shooting at university event – latest updates [Donald Trump says Charlie Kirk has died after being shot at university event – latest updates | Charlie Kirk shooting | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/10/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-tariffs-immigration-crime-us-politics-live-news-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-68c1e2df8f082b7411c1b5ed#block-68c1e2df8f082b7411c1b5ed) That is now THE official authorized way to refer to Charlie Kirk in all media for ever more. No other terms will be permitted for referring to the blessed martyr, may his memory be blessed. ---
**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/85 "2025-09-10T20:56:53Z")
NBC is reporting that he’s dead. I think their source is the Orange Ape’s tweet. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/86 "2025-09-10T20:56:53Z")
This is just another reason why I’m sad that this is the timeline we live in. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/87 "2025-09-10T20:57:01Z")
So the reports seem to be that the arrested guy wasn’t the shooter? The shooter got away (so far)? ---
**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/88 "2025-09-10T20:58:42Z")
Will the Orange Ape order flags to fly at half staff? ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/89 "2025-09-10T20:59:08Z")
A Charlie Horst? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/90 "2025-09-10T20:59:12Z")
Welp, there it is with the Wiki page now redirecting to [Killing of Charlie Kirk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk). I don’t know what to say. Political violence is always wrong. Guns are too easy to get. I hope the backlash isn’t too dreadful. Thoughts and prayers for his children. Of course there are more thoughts to think and more things to say, but not today. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/91 "2025-09-10T21:00:54Z")
I despised the man, but I wish this had not happened. As noted by @griffin1977, he is likely to become a martyr to the cause among the young people who are fans of his propaganda. MAGAs will dine out on this for… well, forever. And… > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Political violence is always wrong. Agreed. > [@bobot](#): > > So the reports seem to be that the arrested guy wasn’t the shooter? The shooter got away (so far)? True. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/92 "2025-09-10T21:03:36Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I can’t stand Charlie Kirk. He also didn’t deserve to get sniped. And now everything in the country is going to get just that much worse as the reactions occur. Yeah. In addition to the political fallout, which i expect to be bad, i don’t want to live in the kind of country where people are randomly gunned down in public, for their political views or really for any reason. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/93 "2025-09-10T21:03:56Z")
Horrific tragedy especially for his young family. US politics is obviously in a dark place anyway but just about the one thing guaranteed to make it much worse is political violence… ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/94 "2025-09-10T21:04:31Z")
Are you all assuming that the shooter is a lefty, or are you assuming it won’t matter for any blowback? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/95 "2025-09-10T21:06:01Z")
NY TImes reported he had just been asked a question about how many mass shootings had there been in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/96 "2025-09-10T21:06:03Z")
The Right has already decided the shooter must be a lefty. Even if it turns out the shooter was a card-carrying member of the Republican party they’ll say they’ve been a lefty all along. So of course the Right will call for more oppression of anyone not them. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/97 "2025-09-10T21:07:37Z")
All they have to do to defuse the situation is insist that the killing wasn’t political in nature, rather a lover’s quarrel. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/98 "2025-09-10T21:08:02Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I despised the man, but I wish this had not happened. As noted by @griffin1977, he is likely to become a martyr to the cause among the young people who are fans of his propaganda. MAGAs will dine out on this for… well, forever. > > And… > > > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > > > Political violence is always wrong. > > Agreed. Well said, and agreed with those sentiments. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/99 "2025-09-10T21:09:39Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > are you assuming it won’t matter for any blowback This. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/100 "2025-09-10T21:10:05Z")
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