# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 51
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1001 "2025-09-14T14:37:14Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I suspect it has more to do with a perceived campaign on the part of George Soros _et.al._ against their righteous crusade to rescue the country from the scourge of wokeness. Which could be expressed in a more blunt manner, ‘The Jews are trying to kill Christ again with their Anti-Christ Jewieness… I mean Cultural Marxism.’ ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1002 "2025-09-14T14:45:02Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I’m not sure they’re capable of that sort of introspection. Introspection? Probably not. _Projection_ on the other hand is something the Right is very much into, and we heard all the ranting about wanting to imprison or outright kill Democrats and the “left” in retaliation that was their initial response to the assassination. They are likely imagining their opponents/rivals doing that to them, since it’s what _they’d_ do given the chance. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1003 "2025-09-14T14:50:22Z")
Ugh, a depth of fascism I hadn’t even considered. False confessions. “I shot Charlie because I’m trans” just to escape the death penalty doesn’t seem far fetched. Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1004 "2025-09-14T15:03:00Z")
Axios says that they have six sources that confirm that Robinson had a romantic relationship with his roommate, who was indeed trans, and also that this person is cooperating with the FBI to identify Robinson’s motive. It’s looking more and more like it might be true. [https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate](https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1005 "2025-09-14T15:33:39Z")
Other sources still put the weasel “may” to the lines, in other sources the typical report is: [“The relative, however, declined to speculate about a romantic relationship between the two.”](https://kfoxtv.com/news/nation-world/alleged-charlie-kirk-assassin-lived-with-a-transgender-partner-cooperated-with-fbi-probe) A lot of the inflammatory “sources” come from unnamed FBI sources and the homophobic governor of Utah. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1006 "2025-09-14T15:45:24Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Someone wants to make his birthday (Oct. 14) a holiday. Really? > **[Imgflip](https://imgflip.com/i/a62cb3)** ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1007 "2025-09-14T16:30:30Z")
O what a circus! O what a show America has gone to town Over the death of a bigot called Charlie Kirk We’ve all gone crazy Mourning all day and mourning all night Falling over ourselves to get all of the hatred right O what an exit! That’s how to go When they’re ringing your curtain down Demand to be buried like Dear Charlie It’s quite a sunset And good for the president in a roundabout way It’s distracted from the Epstein files today – Eyes, hair, face, image All must be preserved Still life displayed forever No less than he deserved Money was raised to build a tomb A monument to Charlie Only the pedestal was completed And next week something new came along and everyone forgot About dear Charlie ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1008 "2025-09-14T17:06:47Z")
Doesn’t matter to the MAGAsses. See the oft-attributed adage about a lie\* circling the world while the truth is still getting its boots on. \* Or in this case, an assertion that fits the desired narrative, even if it’s weasel-worded and later proven false. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1009 "2025-09-14T17:55:34Z")
The Governor of Utah confirmed this on Meet the Press and it is reported in the NYT. So yeah, we are well and truly fucked. The right wing death squads will be out soon hunting anyone who posted about the killing in any way that isn’t judged appropriately sorrowful. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1010 "2025-09-14T18:00:07Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > The right wing death squads will be out soon hunting anyone who posted about the killing in any way that isn’t judged appropriately sorrowful. Sorrowful. Isn’t that one of those made up words like empathy? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1011 "2025-09-14T18:12:06Z")
Oh but surely not, the rightwingers are very emphatic that they oppose cancel culture! /s ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1012 "2025-09-14T18:21:13Z")
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0wid4DWAAASBtr?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0wid4DWAAASBtr?format=jpg&name=900x900) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1013 "2025-09-14T18:26:03Z")
Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1014 "2025-09-14T18:26:16Z")
That is still what the Governor claims, the NYT report is just repeating what the governor said. other independent sources are not so sure still. > **Mr. Cox did not go into specifics about Mr. Robinson’s ideological views or offer a clear picture of them.** Mr. Cox said Mr. Robinson had spent much of his time immersed in online gaming, message boards and parts of what the governor called the “deep, dark internet.” So far in other news, I did see that relatives and others could not confirm the relationship. > **[Alleged Charlie Kirk assassin lived with a transgender partner, cooperated...](https://kfoxtv.com/news/nation-world/alleged-charlie-kirk-assassin-lived-with-a-transgender-partner-cooperated-with-fbi-probe)** > > Tyler Robinson, political activist Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin, was living with a transgender partner, according to reporting from Fox News. Basically, so far, it is mostly hearsay. even that news bit I’m citing here shows how self feeding this is, the main source is the Governor too, who is not being detailed about how he knows that, it looks more that he is relying on Fox news that in their interviews it looks as if they are making very leading questions to friends and relatives to get the hearsay. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1015 "2025-09-14T18:30:04Z")
This story is from Mexico, which is a different country than the United States. > **[Mexican congressional staffer resigns after TV comments about Charlie Kirk](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/13/charlie-kirk-mexican-congressional-staffer-resigns?CMP=share_btn_url)** > > News network Milenio releases public apology after US deputy secretary of state threatens to revoke Mexican visas The Trump administration threatened the media outlet with the revocation of visas. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1016 "2025-09-14T18:32:11Z")
That’s rotten. ( But then… so is he… ) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1017 "2025-09-14T18:48:21Z")
Sounds to me like the Utah governor would fit in nicely in Trump’s cabinet. Heck, he might even step in to run the FBI when Patel cashes out. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1018 "2025-09-14T18:58:16Z")
I think it’s pretty unlikely he is just making things up. Axios reported 6 different sources. Not 100%, but we’ll find out in the next week I’m sure. “Trans woman does the right thing” being used as casus belli against trans people is pretty dark though. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1019 "2025-09-14T19:03:34Z")
[![](https://www.si.com/.image/c_fill,w_720,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/MTY4MTI3OTUyOTQ1NzUxNDI0/caitlyn-jenner-olympics-gold-medal-decathlonjpg.jpg) ](https://www.si.com/.image/c_fill,w_720,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/MTY4MTI3OTUyOTQ1NzUxNDI0/caitlyn-jenner-olympics-gold-medal-decathlonjpg.jpg) ‘Yes, transwomen siding with the people that want to oppress them is unthinkable.’ ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1020 "2025-09-14T19:04:21Z")
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