# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\]

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**Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1021 "2025-09-14T19:04:52Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I think it’s pretty unlikely he is just making things up. Axios reported 6 different sources. Not 100%, but we’ll find out in the next week I’m sure.

Uh, the Axios report about those six sources:

[https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate](https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate)

> Authorities are investigating whether Tyler Robinson, suspected of killing [Charlie Kirk](https://www.axios.com/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-dead-31), believed Kirk’s views on gender identity were “hateful” to people like Robinson’s transgender roommate, six sources familiar with the case tell Axios.

Translation: It is the FBI or others still investigating if there is some validation on that, the Governor is, so far, jumping for “what they are investigating for” (And this looks like a biased investigation now) to “Sure, he was influenced by a trans”

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1022 "2025-09-14T19:06:27Z")

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Yes, that wording had implications that I was not intending.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1023 "2025-09-14T19:39:02Z")

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[Michigan Office Depot employee fired for refusing to print Charlie Kirk posters.](https://www.wilx.com/2025/09/13/office-depot-employee-no-longer-with-company-after-reportedly-refusing-print-charlie-kirk-posters/?fbclid=IwY2xjawMz98VleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFFN2R3VjVIbEs4VXBCWlU2AR7jo2_kKenfGP7JKQcaIyMiK0nL-PdM1DbuwwABmfuiiXD3HsfSvKB6ZfJ_Kw_aem_FOCzqc61FFQkeW6yd5e1SA)

> According to the Republican Party of Kalamazoo County, the Office Depot store manager [refused](https://www.facebook.com/KzooGOP/posts/pfbid0YAcyfGJ925FyHnTkF4ipeux2bM5vPJ2g1KGCKKA66xuGHsex3Tgst3k4tuQAmVDul "https://www.facebook.com/KzooGOP/posts/pfbid0YAcyfGJ925FyHnTkF4ipeux2bM5vPJ2g1KGCKKA66xuGHsex3Tgst3k4tuQAmVDul") to print a prepaid order for posters that were going to be used at a candlelight vigil following Wednesday’s assassination of the 31-year-old conservative political activist on a Utah university campus.

How about this- we make every year have September 10-11 be the National Days of Recreational Grief. Jesus Christ, the fucker was racist as shit, a white Christian nationalist, and a purveyor of hate. Don’t give no bothsidesism bullshit the world is a better place without him. I don’t think he deserved to be shot and I don’t celebrate his death. I am reserving my death celebration for the Orange Walrus.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1024 "2025-09-14T19:53:26Z")

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This Just In: Charlie Kirk is Still Dead….

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1025 "2025-09-14T19:55:27Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> How about this- we make every year have September 10-11 be the National Days of Recreational Grief.

I have already seen this YouTube video thumbnail,

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bbsFK_Fo5fc/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEnCOADEI4CSFryq4qpAxkIARUAAIhCGAHYAQHiAQoIGBACGAY4AUAB&rs=AOn4CLDh0m6RUgigLxVQoW0i8uo-DiZMIQ) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bbsFK_Fo5fc/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEnCOADEI4CSFryq4qpAxkIARUAAIhCGAHYAQHiAQoIGBACGAY4AUAB&rs=AOn4CLDh0m6RUgigLxVQoW0i8uo-DiZMIQ)

‘Truly Charlie Kirk was the Third Tower brought down by terrorists and his death will not go unavenged!’

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1026 "2025-09-14T20:03:22Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I don’t think he deserved to be shot

Well, you know what they say (deserve’s got nothing to do with it).

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1027 "2025-09-14T20:07:15Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> this YouTube video thumbnail

I see someone used photoshop to enlarge his face to an approximately normal size.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1028 "2025-09-14T20:11:45Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> ‘Truly Charlie Kirk was the Third Tower brought down by terrorists and his death will not go unavenged!’

Sorry… I originally read that as ‘Turd Tower’. Ooops.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1029 "2025-09-14T20:23:32Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> m not above suspecting that since the Ghislaine Maxwell interview went as hoped, there’ll be a “implicate our enemies and dodge the death penalty” plea deal

I don’t think that they can do that. Their base won’t be satisfied with anything less than a painful death for Robinson, ideally televised. Their granting him a plea deal would be a worse scandal than Epstein.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1030 "2025-09-14T20:25:15Z")

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He must have been good at carefully planning and extensively rehearsing the praise and worship for the Lord and Savior, el donald. Actually meaning it probably helped. el donald was seeing him as a successor. They fly his body on air force 2. They order the flags at half staff. Since el donald wants to be king, maybe we should call him Prince Chuck as in

“what the P. cHuck has el donald done now?”

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Once again I was reminded that I live in an entirely different world from my MAGA acquaintances. A friend of mine from high school posted a video of George Carlin talking about political assassins seemingly always going after those who want to bring us harmony. I replied that I was hard pressed to see Kirk as someone who was preaching harmony, and my friend said Kirk was always civil and interested in debating people on college campuses. When I asked about Christian nationalism, the great replacement theory, or his statement that Democrats what to get rid of all private property and live in sexual anarchy he denied Kirk has ever expressed those ideas.

We don’t live in the same world, and I honestly don’t know if he genuinely believes Kirk’s goal was to spread harmony or he’s just bullshitting me and everyone else. Maybe he’s even bullshitting himself?

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> A friend of mine from high school posted a video of George Carlin talking about political assassins seemingly always going after those who want to bring us harmony.

You could always strike back with Chris Rock:

> I’m watching the news … Tupac Shakur was assassinated, Biggie Smalls assassinated, struck down by assassin’s bullets … no, they wasn’t. Martin Luther King was assassinated, Malcolm X was assassinated, John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Them two n\*\*\*\*as got **shot**! Shit, I love Tupac, I love Biggie, but school will be open on their birthday!

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1033 "2025-09-14T21:32:03Z")

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All these goddamn trigger words like battle, war, target, have been used by GOP for ten years. This, I believe, is a major part for the young Trump and Kirk supporters— and shooters.

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From MeidasTouch:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/CylDih1cZ6I/maxresdefault.jpg "PANICKING GOP tries DESPERATELY to CHANGE IDENTITY of KILLER") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CylDih1cZ6I&t=1s)

The right wing echo chamber is going mainstream.. sadly.

> But then Brook Sigman same day she’s got a source I don’t know Brooke is it the  
> source that said the evidence was getting back to the lab so quickly but Brook’s got a source everybody. And here’s what the source tells her.
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> “Exclusive: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner. Sources tell me the individual who is a male transitioning to a female is fully cooperating with the FBI.  
> Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.”
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> I want you to notice some of that language that’s used there, too.
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> That helped them solidify that the dad turned him in. So, what do you mean help solidify? And then you say that this individual who you claim to be trans was fully cooperating with the FBI.  
> So, somebody who’s been very helpful after the dad turned his own son in is now responsible for the it, just accept their facts as true for a second, which I don’t.

> So then the New York Post, also owned by Murdoch, they then say Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson, lived with transgender partner. So it goes from Fox Digital to whoever Fox Digital source was, someone who was seemed to be praising Kash Patel before and now the New York Post is now reporting on it. And then you start to see right-wing influencers and right-wing media saying that transgender ideology may be responsible for the shooting. Um, you have Rob Schmidt from a right-wing media network: “Trump told me this morning Kirk assassin has a transgirlfriend.”

> And then all the Elon Musk accounts start coming out and there it is: “Mental illness is real. Trans violence is very real. This individual radicalized Tyler. If the reporting is right, this individual helped turn Robinson in.”  
> So, accusing this individual, that’s a bit it’s a bit odd, wouldn’t we say that? Um, and then Benny Johnson goes, “This is 100 left-wing influencer. This is 100% confirmed. Charlie Kirk Killer, Tyler Robinson, had a boyfriend who identified as transgender. This man is cooperating with the FBI.”
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> They got to just be like total jerks about it too and and and hateful when they say it.
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> “This man is cooperating with the FBI and has turned over all electronics and messages. I’m hearing there is much more to come. Yes, this is now officially trans violence.”

> So let me get this straight. The violence is coming from Tyler’s alleged transgender girlfriend who is cooperating with the police, not the white dude who shot and killed Charlie Kirk. Got it.

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LGBTQ+ and ‘minority’ themes (and performers?) have no place in the Kennedy Center, but you know what _does_??

[**Lawmakers, Trump administration officials to remember Kirk at Kennedy Center vigil**](https://thehill.com/homenews/5502967-charlie-kirk-dc-prayer-vigil-kennedy-center/)

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> Lawmakers, Trump administration officials and other dignitaries will honor the memory of conservative pundit Charlie Kirk at a vigil on Sunday evening.
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> The Kennedy Center will host the D.C. vigil at 6:30 p.m. EDT.
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> Those attending include House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Republican Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.) and Anna Paulina Luna (Fla.). Arizona state Sen. Jake Hoffman (R) organized the event.

I guess it _was_ time to thoroughly desecrate the venue, anyway, huh?

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Let’s try to get all of Charlie’s greatest hits in one place.  
[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/a48dbedf-96c9-4e6f-b062-62e7ec461cc6) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/a48dbedf-96c9-4e6f-b062-62e7ec461cc6)  
[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/c2ff50f6-c796-44b1-bd5f-537785e38539) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/c2ff50f6-c796-44b1-bd5f-537785e38539)  
[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/fcf32b35-1901-41d5-b859-6ed0ebed246e) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/fcf32b35-1901-41d5-b859-6ed0ebed246e)  
[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_82,w_100,c_scale,f_avif/v200/4e646d82-2465-4d82-8ecd-ef7e5bd408cf) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_82,w_100,c_scale,f_avif/v200/4e646d82-2465-4d82-8ecd-ef7e5bd408cf)

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Let’s try to get all of Charlie’s greatest hits in one place

Apparently the one about stoning gays was taken out of context. (Stephen King apologized for mistakenly repeating it.)

[Stephen King Apologizes for Charlie Kirk Tweet](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/stephen-king-apologizes-charlie-kirk-1236369314/#:~:text=The%20author%20posted%20several%20messages,about%20Kirk%20after%20his%20murder).

The rest of the quotes are abhorrent.

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I feel like I am living in a world gone mad more than ever.

When I take a peek at my FB page I see all kinds of posts praising CK and attributing all kinds of signs and wonders to him through whatever version of god they believe in.

One went to a prayer vigil and posted a picture of a huge rainbow that appeared only for the time of the service.

I have a few cousins and friends who are not afraid to post their own perspectives on the situation. For now such posts are abundant but I wonder how long that kind of freedom will last on this platform?

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My local small town had a vigil of some sort on the courthouse lawn this afternoon. Of course the two GOP reps were present (State rep and state senator), along with a county commissioner. Looked like about 100 people were there.

Hope it all blows over soon. Maybe after he’s buried.

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Hope it all blows over soon. Maybe after he’s buried.

He seems like the sort to rise again, unfortunately.

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